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Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

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Sigmapolis

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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

NorthCyd said:
I have a lot of problems with some of what's in that article. Especially the talk of Fred's struggle in the post season.

But that tweet about the top priority for the next Bulls coach is managent compliance is scary for anyone who has options IMO.

One of the most interesting takes I have ever heard on the potential for Fred to the NBA was Paul Allen's. He was being interviewed by Ken Miller about whether he would make the jump a few years back. PA said he felt Fred would never jump, and cited some issues he had with management in the T-Wolves organization as souring him to the NBA. I guess there was one guy in particular that Fred had a hard time dealing with, but no name was given. I know this, Fred will never have the level of control he has now in the NBA. If that is important for him, then its a big plus for ISU, and a big negative for the Bulls as their front office seems like a total cluster ****. He may be good friends with some folks over there. I have some really close friends that I wouldn't want to work with in a million years.
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I think all of us can sympathize with that. I work for a small company. I've absolute control of my work day and own schedule and any "work place policies" are routinely ignored as long as you finish your tasks, take care of clients, find new ones, etc., that kind of stuff. I've had chances to go to bigger, better-known firms (and probably for more pay) and passed simply because being sucked into a corporate behemoth and cube land doesn't sound fun.

Fred's the King of Iowa right now. Fred says jump, JP asks how high. Chicago? The powers-that-be are going to see him as just another middle manager. Autonomy and freedom (and the responsibility that come with it, but also the *direct* credit, sink or swim) are much preferable to having layers over you (owners, GMs, players) in the NBA who are going to take the credit for success but blame you for any failure. As happens in any hierarchical organization. Going from Fred to "Hoi... who?" within the institution (including fans) won't be easy.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

BoxsterCy said:
Well, I had to google up Alvin Gentry because I had no idea who he was. :wideeyed:
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Well, you typically don't know the names of lifetime assistants in college either.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

IAStubborn said:
He was a head coach of the suns for a long time.
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Am I the only one who thinks the Bulls situation isn't as good as it seems? To be honest I think the Timberwolves job would be much more appealing to build Hoiball around.
 
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Re: BLUM: The Mayor's dilemma

Wesley said:
Having played in Chicago, he will have the same must win pressure, perhaps unable to meet his own expectations. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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You really think Ames and Chicago feel the same way about him? Why am I arguing with a robot about psychology.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

EYEoftheSTORM said:
Am I the only one who thinks the Bulls situation isn't as good as it seems? To be honest I think the Timberwolves job would be much more appealing to build Hoiball around.
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Youre not the only one at all. I somewhat say that because I desperately want Hoiberg to stay at ISU, but as a Bulls fan, I fear what will happen a few years from now, no mater who the coach is. The Timberwolves will be decent here in a couple of years.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

EYEoftheSTORM said:
Am I the only one who thinks the Bulls situation isn't as good as it seems? To be honest I think the Timberwolves job would be much more appealing to build Hoiball around.
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Not only that but also the proximity to Ames, Fred's Lake house, the mayo clinic, etc.
 
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Re: BLUM: The Mayor's dilemma

IAStubborn said:
You really think Ames and Chicago feel the same way about him? Why am I arguing with a robot about psychology.
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Sounds like he likes all of Ames, Chicago, and Minneapolis. I have lived in ten places and if you can drive home, it works. You can make a nice home many places if you have your family.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

EYEoftheSTORM said:
Am I the only one who thinks the Bulls situation isn't as good as it seems? To be honest I think the Timberwolves job would be much more appealing to build Hoiball around.
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That is actually the belief of almost everyone in the thread.

It really does make the most sense for Fred to coach next season at ISU with a top 5 team and then regardless of how the season ends, go to the Wolves.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

Why are we all debating about what NBA team Fred should go to? You won't hear me make a case of any job Fred should have except ISU.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

Cyclonesince78 said:
Why are we all debating about what NBA team Fred should go to? You won't hear me make a case of any job Fred should have except ISU.
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If only you Fred was you.
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

Cyclonesince78 said:
Why are we all debating about what NBA team Fred should go to? You won't hear me make a case of any job Fred should have except ISU.
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Because Pollard basically confirmed that he will be going to the NBA at some point. I would say the only way he doesn't go to the NBA is if things crash and burn at ISU or for health reasons, so rooting for him not to go to the NBA ends up being just as crappy as the alternative. Yeah, not the best place for us to be, I know...
 
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau

Clones8686 said:
Because Pollard basically confirmed that he will be going to the NBA at some point. I would say the only way he doesn't go to the NBA is if things crash and burn at ISU or for health reasons, so rooting for him not to go to the NBA ends up being just as crappy as the alternative. Yeah, not the best place for us to be, I know...
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That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 
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