The "we hate Fred" crowd is a very vocal small minority, I'm quite certain of that.
I don't think anyone hates Fred.
The "we hate Fred" crowd is a very vocal small minority, I'm quite certain of that.
The "we hate Fred" crowd is a very vocal small minority, I'm quite certain of that.
That's why buyouts are put into contracts, and the buyout if he left for the NBA is significantly less than for another college team. If that wasn't writing on the wall then I don't know what was, and ISU agreed to it.
If.he does.come back, that needs to change. ISU needs a long term commitment or he is probably just better off going now.
I don't think anyone hates Fred.
Why do I keep reading this thread. It's like a combination of Dr. Phil and Jerry Springer.
He has not officially announced he is leaving so maybe a thread of hope is keeping the mob at bay.
But there is some venom being spewed already, if he does leave, you will see people say things like don't let the door hit you on the way out, and that is probably one of the more mellow replies.
For some it will be like a bad divorce, and they will hate him.
He has not officially announced he is leaving so maybe a thread of hope is keeping the mob at bay.
But there is some venom being spewed already, if he does leave, you will see people say things like don't let the door hit you on the way out, and that is probably one of the more mellow replies.
For some it will be like a bad divorce, and they will hate him.
Those buyout clauses in contracts are essentially useless. No "desirable" coach is going to sign a contract that contains a buyout clause that meaningfully restricts a move that said coach might really desire to make.
I do fully agree with your last sentence.
Oh don't get me wrong... he will always be the Mayor, he will always be an Ames hero, he will always be the guy that brought ISU basketball back from the brink of extinction.... but he will also be the guy that made ISU fans believe and then turned his back on them. If he goes to the NBA Fred Hoiberg will just be another guy that came to Iowa State and left when his time playing was done, just another coach that was in Ames for a few years and left, and that is it... nothing more and nothing less.
I despise the NBA but I would gain a new interest in the game and that would be rooting for whatever franchise takes Hoiberg to fail and fail in the worst possible way. It's just the way it is. If your wife cheats on you and bails you don't root for her to have success... you hope karma makes her life a living hell from now until eternity. Not much different then this scenario facing Iowa State right now.
If Fred does leave, I think its to follow his dream. I would be disappointed but not angry. You can't fault someone for making the most of their god-given talent. As much as I love ISU, ISU is not the NBA.
If he left just for more money, I would be furious. Then I would see CFH as a sellout. But I really don't think its the money.
This is the response of an irrational, perspectiveless fanatic. Most more casual fans will not be rooting for Fred to fail, or think he turned his back on them, or view it as a cheating spouse. That's really just ******* ridiculous.
If Fred does leave, I think its to follow his dream. I would be disappointed but not angry. You can't fault someone for making the most of their god-given talent. As much as I love ISU, ISU is not the NBA.
If he left just for more money, I would be furious. Then I would see CFH as a sellout. But I really don't think its the money.
I don't think anyone hates Fred.
Oh bawbie... get over it. I like Fred, I think he is a good coach, and a good guy. Will I be ****** if he bails on ISU and his players? You bet your *** I will be.
Well, ISU may have 100,000 fans or more and 50 of them might say something mean. These are people, some not that smart, and many are going to be hurt.