*** STEVE PROHM PRESS CONFERENCE DAY THREAD ***

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IAStubborn

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Pollard: One candidate stood out as candidate that met goals unlike everybody else. Family man. Newborn. #Cyclones


Bobby La Gesse@BobbyLaGesse 12s13 seconds ago
Five key points in hiring new coach. Big one was proven winner.

Seems to be a shot a TJ. Or at least an answer to the TJ crowd. Pollard had lost some of my respect during the search but I like his rational and he has regained my full confidence (not that it matters).
 

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This is the perfect opportunity for a school to turn a kids head, and once that happens, it can be hard to get it turned back. They might not be committing to anyone next week but they sure can be changing their mind about who they are going to commit to next month. It's just amazing that no one has learned any lessons of recruiting through the Vaughn, Diallo, and Williams situations. Three separate and different situations yet the same results each time.

Vaughn - the head turn
Diallo - the coaching flux
Williams - the asst. follower

These recruits can change on a dime and it can take far less than an up in the air coaching situation to do it.
None of those guys guys changed on a dime.

Out of the 4 known guys, I would have had Prohm 3rd, and this presser has me doubting JP even more than ever, but you have become the lovechild of clonedude and jsb.
 

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Anyone else notice unusual importance on Steve's faith impacting his ability to coach and potential impact on hiring Steve? I'm not attempting to disregard the importance of religion (or lack thereof, whatever your stance) but trying to figure out why and where this comes into question when assessing how someone can do their job? I would expect this at Notre Dame or any other private institution, just surprised to hear this at the press conference today. If I was a player, frankly I wouldn't want to be proselytized too, and I would expect Jaime to be more concerned with anti-discriminatory laws and protected classes of questions that prohibit employers from asking certain questions. I mean really, how would his religion affect his ability to coach??

Jaime Pollard on characteristics he was looking for in a coach: “What made Steve the choice? Family man, faith, he is grounded, he has an understanding of who he is and who he’s not, and he’s respected by officials.”

Steve Prohm: “what I want to see out of my players, I want to challenge them spiritually.”
 

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Anyone else notice unusual importance on Steve's faith impacting his ability to coach and potential impact on hiring Steve? I'm not attempting to disregard the importance of religion (or lack thereof, whatever your stance) but trying to figure out why and where this comes into question when assessing how someone can do their job? I would expect this at Notre Dame or any other private institution, just surprised to hear this at the press conference today. If I was a player, frankly I wouldn't want to be proselytized too, and I would expect Jaime to be more concerned with anti-discriminatory laws and protected classes of questions that prohibit employers from asking certain questions. I mean really, how would his religion affect his ability to coach??

Jaime Pollard on characteristics he was looking for in a coach: “What made Steve the choice? Family man, faith, he is grounded, he has an understanding of who he is and who he’s not, and he’s respected by officials.”

Steve Prohm: “what I want to see out of my players, I want to challenge them spiritually.”

Meh. I'm as anti-religion as they come, but if anything, it will help him gain the trust of most of the players, recruits and families. Plenty of great basketball players tout their faith in God even when their behavior says otherwise. It's a fashion statement of sorts.
 

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Anyone else notice unusual importance on Steve's faith impacting his ability to coach and potential impact on hiring Steve? I'm not attempting to disregard the importance of religion (or lack thereof, whatever your stance) but trying to figure out why and where this comes into question when assessing how someone can do their job? I would expect this at Notre Dame or any other private institution, just surprised to hear this at the press conference today. If I was a player, frankly I wouldn't want to be proselytized too, and I would expect Jaime to be more concerned with anti-discriminatory laws and protected classes of questions that prohibit employers from asking certain questions. I mean really, how would his religion affect his ability to coach??

Jaime Pollard on characteristics he was looking for in a coach: “What made Steve the choice? Family man, faith, he is grounded, he has an understanding of who he is and who he’s not, and he’s respected by officials.”

Steve Prohm: “what I want to see out of my players, I want to challenge them spiritually.”

I have a lot I could say on this topic, but it wouldn't be popular and would belong in the religion/politics section.
 

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You guys are right. Let's just sit back and watch everyone else do their thing during the final month leading up to the last live period before the majority of 2016's commit. That sounds like a great plan.

You're sort of ridiculous. I don't know if you knew that, but you are.
 

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Meh. I'm as anti-religion as they come, but if anything, it will help him gain the trust of most of the players, recruits and families. Plenty of great basketball players tout their faith in God even when their behavior says otherwise. It's a fashion statement of sorts.

there's a fine line sometimes between proselytizing and practicing your faith. It's important to not push faith, or especially your specific faith, onto the players. But being a "whole person" coach and talking about spirituality, or using religious texts as guides/motivation seems like a plus to me.
 

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How about this:

"Jamie do you plan on being here next year"
"President Leath, do you still have faith in JP"
"Was TJ ever considered for the job?"
"Jamie, if it wasn't for Leath, how much different would have this hiring process been".
"President Leath, are you the new spokesperson for ISU athletics?"

And... welcome to your last press conference invite.
 

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I recall the one about Horny and the Nazis. How did I miss the one about Fred urinating on dogs?

It was Chris Williams threatening to urinate on everyone's dogs (see my signature).

Now on to the real debate....Taco Bell > Taco Johns. Potato Ole's and Taco Burgers aside, Tacos Johns is a hot steamy pile of garbage wrapped in a tortilla.
 

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there's a fine line sometimes between proselytizing and practicing your faith. It's important to not push faith, or especially your specific faith, onto the players. But being a "whole person" coach and talking about spirituality, or using religious texts as guides/motivation seems like a plus to me.

Me too. It tells me at least that he is more than just a coach to his young men. I would guess that many more players and their families will be attracted to that than will be turned off by it.
 

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Anyone else notice unusual importance on Steve's faith impacting his ability to coach and potential impact on hiring Steve? I'm not attempting to disregard the importance of religion (or lack thereof, whatever your stance) but trying to figure out why and where this comes into question when assessing how someone can do their job? I would expect this at Notre Dame or any other private institution, just surprised to hear this at the press conference today. If I was a player, frankly I wouldn't want to be proselytized too, and I would expect Jaime to be more concerned with anti-discriminatory laws and protected classes of questions that prohibit employers from asking certain questions. I mean really, how would his religion affect his ability to coach??

Jaime Pollard on characteristics he was looking for in a coach: “What made Steve the choice? Family man, faith, he is grounded, he has an understanding of who he is and who he’s not, and he’s respected by officials.”

Steve Prohm: “what I want to see out of my players, I want to challenge them spiritually.”

If Baylor fans are correct getting kids based on religion is the #1 and almost exclusive selling point. I'm not religious but I have no problems with it if it helps recruiting, doesn't violate rules, and nobody's personal rights are infringed. We wouldn't even have that whole team murder contradiction Baylor had when the became a religious powerhouse recruiting machine.
 

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Yeah, but 10 years in Kentucky. Which is kind of like the southern midwest.

I was thinking more about the wife who is young and apparently has never left that state. It'll be a culture shock but it's not like she's coming from Dallas to Ames. She's coming from Murray (which until yesterday I didn't realize was a city) to Ames.

She's leaving the only town she's ever known, a relatively smaller one with all the friends and family support, to move to Ames IA with her infant son. There isn't much to do in Ames when it's zero in January, you're alone with your young child and your husband is at work or on the road most evenings. He really values his family. We'll see how this adjustment goes for them.
 
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this site has just gone into the gutter lately, every thread on the front page is a joke, why this constant douchebaggery is tolerated I have no idea, sad really and it's going to destroy this site longer term, but we have reached the point where idiots outnumber the fair minded people
 

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She's leaving the only town she's ever known, a relatively smaller one with all the friends and family support, to move to Ames IA with her infant son. There isn't much to do in Ames when it's zero in January, you're alone with your young child and your husband is at work or on the road most evenings. He really values his family. We'll see how this adjustment goes for them.
I'm sure lots of people can't make friends in 6 months. Seriously?
 
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