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Gunnerclone

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You're just naming his recruits. Babb, Allen and other transfers were Hoiberg's targets. I'm sure TJ did the legwork but Fred closed the deal. Young Babb and Noskowiak are complete unknowns at this point. Ejim is the one guy who has been through ISU, became an AA and led a sweet 16 team. That's my criteria, just like everyone else has theirs. If TJ stays, I'll support it, but he is not make or break for this program going forward. And he better start bringing in 4 and 5 stars if he does stay because his recruiting prowess has been way overblown at this point.

Are you high? If so, please pass it on.
 

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TJ also got Babb, Allen, Naz...
Oh yeah and young Babb and Noskowiak

Those guys that have played were good recruits but the only high school recruit (naz) was a 3* guy. Its nothing against TJ but all the guys people want to list as his "great recruits" are guys that are on par with the caliber of recruit ISU has been getting for nearly 20 years. TJ is a capable recruiter who can get talent here but people act like getting 1 stud recruit makes him the greatest recruiter of all time. I hope TJ sticks around but if not, we can find a guy to get high 3*/low 4* talent here, Im 100% confident of that.
 

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You're just naming his recruits. Babb, Allen and other transfers were Hoiberg's targets. I'm sure TJ did the legwork but Fred closed the deal. Young Babb and Noskowiak are complete unknowns at this point. Ejim is the one guy who has been through ISU, became an AA and led a sweet 16 team. That's my criteria, just like everyone else has theirs. If TJ stays, I'll support it, but he is not make or break for this program going forward. And he better start bringing in 4 and 5 stars if he does stay because his recruiting prowess has been way overblown at this point.

Um every recruit is the Head Coaches target, but the Assistant Coach goes and recruits them.
 

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TJ was his main recruiter.

You better have some facts to back that up.
Pretty sure he was kind of joking. When TJ decided to come back from Washington Georges' mom made a comment that TJ coming back wasn't a good thing. I don't think it was anything against TJ but she knew that might mean Fred was gone. And she was right. Orrrr maybe TJ doesn't like her cookies.
 

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Georges and his mom hate TJ everyone knows that.

no we don't. We have no idea what their relationship is. She made one post that could have been interpreted in any number of ways, and then deleted it almost immediately. To say that Georges and his mother hate TJ is complete speculation.
 

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no we don't. We have no idea what their relationship is. She made one post that could have been interpreted in any number of ways, and then deleted it almost immediately. To say that Georges and his mother hate TJ is complete speculation.

Cmon Janny, surely you can pick up on the sarcasm
 

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no we don't. We have no idea what their relationship is. She made one post that could have been interpreted in any number of ways, and then deleted it almost immediately. To say that Georges and his mother hate TJ is complete speculation.

and we can't say for sure that the only thing she meant was that tj coming back meant Fred was leaving either. (And that idea has been debunked on here too...tj apparently expected Fred to be back.)

it doesn't really matter, I suppose. I suspect that prohm wants tj back (at least I hope he does) provided that tj can work with prohm. So now it is up to tj. I'd love it if he came back. I'd understand if he was ****** as hell at Iowa state and didn't want anything to do with us.
 

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Cmon Janny, surely you can pick up on the sarcasm
I'm just making it clear to everyone, regardless of sarcasm. I'm looking a the deleted post right now. It's all of 6 words long, and is very ambiguous. There is very little to take away from it.
 

heitclone

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and we can't say for sure that the only thing she meant was that tj coming back meant Fred was leaving either. (And that idea has been debunked on here too...tj apparently expected Fred to be back.)

it doesn't really matter, I suppose. I suspect that prohm wants tj back (at least I hope he does) provided that tj can work with prohm. So now it is up to tj. I'd love it if he came back. I'd understand if he was ****** as hell at Iowa state and didn't want anything to do with us.

Why? Unless he thought he'd be the head coach he has no reason to hate ISU. He could want to leave bc he expected to work with Fred but there is no reason to hate ISU or Steve Prohm. He'd be doing the job he was hired to do. If TJ has any ill will towards ISU, Fred is the one he should be upset with. That's the guy whom he was lead to believe he'd be working for, the guy who hired him only to bolt instantly.
 

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Didn't he find Wesley Johnson as well? And Mike Taylor? And Matt Thomas was a top 50 recruit? Diante Garret? Also isn't he responsible for McKay even considering ISU as a landing spot because he was recruiting him to ISU in the first place? Which let do Burton
What about Christopherson? Korie Lucious? Will Clyburn?

I don't think his recruiting is that overblown. He isn't John Calipari but for ISU he has been very good

Wesley was a Jean Prioleau find. He had started the relationship while he was an assistant at Wichita State.
 

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no we don't. We have no idea what their relationship is. She made one post that could have been interpreted in any number of ways, and then deleted it almost immediately. To say that Georges and his mother hate TJ is complete speculation.

To even believe it was his Mom posting on an anonymous message board takes a huge leap just to start off with.