Do you even college football? OKIE state has about 30 combinations including all greys. You would be hard pressed to pick a worse team to illustrate your point.
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Do you even college football? OKIE state has about 30 combinations including all greys. You would be hard pressed to pick a worse team to illustrate your point.
Some of you know we are selling a USC Trojans Pendleton blanket right now, since it's our "home" university here in California. Thus, I have my finger on the pulse of USC football, which is a program with 11 national championships, 7 Heisman Trophy winners, and something like nearly 100 consensus All-Americans. USC plays in one of the world's most important cities, in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. They have kept their uniform design remarkably similar over the years.
HOWEVER
Scuttlebutt over here is that USC is exploring adding some alternate looks, including a possible bronze outfit to pay homage to their famous Tommy Trojan statue on campus. Feeling is that they are falling behind in the recruiting/perception battle. If USC, with all of their incredible inherent advantages, feels this way and feels they are being harmed by not having alternate uniforms, I can only imagine what the perception of ISU is.
Food for thought...
HOWEVER
Scuttlebutt over here is that USC is exploring adding some alternate looks, including a possible bronze outfit to pay homage to their famous Tommy Trojan statue on campus. Feeling is that they are falling behind in the recruiting/perception battle. If USC, with all of their incredible inherent advantages, feels this way and feels they are being harmed by not having alternate uniforms, I can only imagine what the perception of ISU is.
Food for thought...
I love charcoal gray matte helmets.
But I hate this new trend of gigantic logos on the sides of helmets...looks way too cheesy. The Buccaneers' helmets are a prime example...worst helmets (and uniforms) in the NFL.
But I hate this new trend of gigantic logos on the sides of helmets...looks way too cheesy. The Buccaneers' helmets are a prime example...worst helmets (and uniforms) in the NFL.
As I scrolled to the end of thread to make my comment, you had just made it.
All good, but keep the logos to scale.
You missed "for the most part" in my post. Their best-looking uni combos are those without the grey BS and the majority of their combos I've seen don't include grey.
If we could just add that 1% of the puzzle then we'd have a total of 1% of the puzzle!
Here is what this ultimately boils down to. The uniforms they wear don't need to please you or me, they need to please recruits and young fans, by young I mean high school and lower. That is how ISU is best served to grow their fan base. I doubt any people on cyclone fanatic would stop being fans of ISU if they were home grey uni with a grey helmet for one game. But that one grey uni may help a young person become a fan because it is cool and on current trend. It may also help land one single recruit. Lets say that recruit is avg for ISU, having one more avg recruit at ISU is huge, and without the uni's we wouldn't have gotten him.
ISU isn't going to hurt itself by having multiple alternate uniforms, they are going to help themselves. And one of the easiest ways for ISU to do that is by taking the current uniform layout and putting on a different base color. Obviously only Black, or grey would really work, because Purple, blue, green, pink or whatever other color would be completely offensive. Although a highlighter green would look sick in my opinion.
To end this it doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else on this board thinks, those unis are for the team, potential recruits and for young potential fans. ISU should do everything it can, to grab and hold onto all three of those categories, because ultimately the rest of us will still be here if they do trot out in hot pink uni's for breast cancer awareness, sure they would look like ****, but that isn't going to stop any of us from watching, and it might catch the attention of someone who has never watched before.
Also note ISU already has grey scale and single color (black) approved on their logo sheet. A greyed out ISU would be cool whether any of us think so or not, we don't determine what is cool.
Just think where Maryland and Kansas would be without all their uniform combos?
I wouldn't mind having some alternate uniforms, I think an all-white look would be good. But I'm not convinced it will really help us in any way like some people are. Kansas has any number of red/blue/white/gray combos the last few years, they've done the matte helmets, the oversized logo, the chrome look, maybe even had a black uniform in there too and it hasn't seemed to have any positive impact on their program. Indiana's had like six different helmets the last few seasons, still haven't made a bowl game. But will it hurt the program, I don't think so either, so I guess I'm in favor of a few alternate uniforms with no expectations of it actually benefiting the program.
I wouldn't mind having some alternate uniforms, I think an all-white look would be good. But I'm not convinced it will really help us in any way like some people are. Kansas has any number of red/blue/white/gray combos the last few years, they've done the matte helmets, the oversized logo, the chrome look, maybe even had a black uniform in there too and it hasn't seemed to have any positive impact on their program. Indiana's had like six different helmets the last few seasons, still haven't made a bowl game. But will it hurt the program, I don't think so either, so I guess I'm in favor of a few alternate uniforms with no expectations of it actually benefiting the program.
I agree that ISU should have some alternates, however people are about five years too late on the gray and fifteen on the black. If ISU gets alternates, they should be well executed and unique. More often than not, getting a black uniform when your school colors don't contain black doesn't make you look like Oregon, it makes you look like Ohio.
Good example of black alternates:
Poor example:
Good example of black alternates:
Poor example:
I agree that ISU should have some alternates, however people are about five years too late on the gray and fifteen on the black. If ISU gets alternates, they should be well executed and unique. More often than not, getting a black uniform when your school colors don't contain black doesn't make you look like Oregon, it makes you look like Ohio.
Good example of black alternates:
Poor example:
You just showed a nike school (like the nike school) vs a Russel Athletics school. What do you expect.
Poor Russell Athletics. They're the Russell Athletics of the sports uniform world.
Well-put.
A tasteful set of alts, bring it on, I'm all in. What bugs me about the alternate-explosion, is some people will seem to slobber over almost any new uniform set/radical "trendy" helmet design, when a notable percentage of them suck.
This is an important point on timing IMO. The standard I-State logo and uniforms were a HUGE step forward for the university. Mucho props to the Athletic Department for getting that right. It pulled ISU uniforms up from embarrassing to merely average. AD Jamie Pollard and his staff have done a great job of getting the main logo and facilities up to a middle of the road P5 level.
Now will there be a next step? How can ISU differentiate themselves from schools like Purdue, Kansas, Indiana, Cal, Vanderbilt, etc.? Heck, even Ames High School had matte helmets before ISU ... innovate or die.
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ISU has official clothing that uses the Gray/Charcoal coloring, and it looks great. Our colors - Cardinal and Gold - are both bold, bright colors. Sometimes we need a cooler, more muted color to balance out the intensity of our primary ones. We tried navy in the past and that didnt work. The best option is a dark gray/charcoal/gun metal.
Imagine our guys walking out onto the field with matte charcoal helmets that have foil cardinal cyclones on them. I think it could look bad-***.
ISU has official clothing that uses the Gray/Charcoal coloring, and it looks great. Our colors - Cardinal and Gold - are both bold, bright colors. Sometimes we need a cooler, more muted color to balance out the intensity of our primary ones. We tried navy in the past and that didnt work. The best option is a dark gray/charcoal/gun metal.
Imagine our guys walking out onto the field with matte charcoal helmets that have foil cardinal cyclones on them. I think it could look bad-***.
