Refs calling 2 incomplete passes

ianoconnor

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They may be correct based on how they are calling it but that doesn't mean the interpretation of the rule is right. Anyone that thinks those were correct calls is an idiot. They were absolute jokes of calls.

On the Lazard one I don't get why they wouldn't have called it incomplete right away. It wasn't like whether he had it long enough was hard to determine.

On the touchdown that was embarrassingly bad officiating. Not only do they screw up the review but how the hell is it even close to an interception. Their guy was at least a step away from our guy when he first caught it and started going down. Then when he finally came up with it he was well out of bounds.
So does this mean you may think of yourself as an idiot?
 

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So does this mean you may think of yourself as an idiot?

You obviously didn't read what I said. I said that may be how they are calling it but it doesn't mean it is right. Then I said if you actually think that was the correct call. Or in other words if you agree with the officials.
 

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To complete a catch in football now you have to catch it, carry it to the ground, get up with it, walk it home and place it on your mantle while maintaining control throughout. But they were both correct interpretations of bad rules IMO.

Dennis Miller said the other day that in the NFL, you have to be a practicing Buddhist and take the ball into the next life with you.
 

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Lazard had a catch, he had possession of the ball, knee then was down and then ball comes out, once you are down with possession, its a catch. I have always thought the completing the process of a catch is when going out of bounds, I guess I was wrong.
 

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The Bundrage call was right (not the interception, but the incomplete. I think Lazard was wrong. He didn't take a bunch of steps, but he made a football move, then his knee went down on the tackle. That seemed pretty clearly like a catch to me.
 

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The Bundrage call was right (not the interception, but the incomplete. I think Lazard was wrong. He didn't take a bunch of steps, but he made a football move, then his knee went down on the tackle. That seemed pretty clearly like a catch to me.
I mean he literally took no steps.
 

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That "must maintain possession through the catch" rule is crap. I have never liked that rule. Lazard made the catch and had possession when his knee touched the ground. That should have been the end of the play right there. The Bundrage catch was a little tougher to call, but it looked like he had possession with at least one foot in, so it should have been a TD before the defender knocked the ball out. But for them to call that an INT was a joke!
 

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The definition of a completed catch changes from game-to-game. Our d-backs need to punch, grab or pull at the ball when they go to the ground, even when rolling around.
 

dirtyninety

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Did anyone see the Michigan State Fullback 80 yard wheel route pass touchdown that the ****** bag television referee reveiwed and put on the half yard line. The on field referee got it right, gave him the touchdown. After 4 minutes of life-wasting review, they put it on the half. MSU promptly scored on next play anyway.
The tragedy is that fullback will rarely get scoring opportunities and it was a great run, with twists and jukes for a slow guy. Some over-officious jerk took a great play away from a well-deserved player. The profession of officiating really does need to look at things. They need to look at the holding penalty too.....you can call it every freaking play......why not television review that too...we'll make it like crickett and take a couple days to play.
 

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The rule needs changed, it's so subjective. If you have clear possession of the ball and your knee is down then the play is dead IMO..end of story. How are you supposed to make a football move when u are on the ground. Had Lazard gone straight down and lost ball after his knee was touching then they would have called it a catch...but if his knee is down and he rolls over on top of a player then losses ball it's not a catch...ridiculous.
 

dirtyninety

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"football move". I still can't believe how ridiculous even NFL has gotten on this.
 

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Some of you act like the poor officiating is only our games, and only aimed at us. Try watching college football in other conferences someday. It sucks everywhere.

The reference to the MSU game where they placed the ball at the 1/2 yard line is a great example. But you know what - MSU is good, and punched it in anyway. What if that happened to us? We would fumble it and turn it over. Then start a 24 page thread about how the Big12 and refs are out to get us.