I always thought the guy was a perfect fit for what ISU wants in the football coach and love what he stands for. I wanted it to work for him so bad. That being said it is clear it is time for a change.
FootballScoop.com says Rhoads is gone*
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Would you rather make $3 mil a year at mizzou or Illinois for 3 years or $2 mil a year for 7 years at ISU? If I'm a prospective coach making that decision it's pretty easy to me. Gee I can go to big 12 still in a major conf..I don't have to do a thing to upgrade facilities...if I even come close to winning 6 games a year and a bowl game every other year I'm Golden and can right my ticket to retirement. That's the ISU job. Or I can take a chance on mizzou or Illinois and pray I get past that 3 year hump or I'll be an assistant forever after I get fired.
There are so many factors that come into play..it's not just mizzou is a Better job cause they are mizzou..depends on what a HC wants in life. It's not black and white.
As for Prohm..lets see where we are sitting after this year. We will have a top 15 recruiting class on paper. I'd say that's pretty good thus far.
Can't open the check book if no one is willing to take the check.
In theory, we opened the checkbook for the basketball coach (that's why Leath got involved, remember?) and we still ended up with a low major coach. And that was for a good basketball program!
And again, I'm not upset about the decision being made. I just don't automatically think that Iowa State football is going to be better off long term.
I like CPR, but he had to go. As ISU fans, of course we all wanted to see him succeed because it's ISU. But we also wanted him to succeed because we liked his passion for ISU. Unfortunately, this was his seventh year, and he still had not figured out how to win in the Big 12 on a consistent basis. Yesterday was just the final straw.
Yes, Iowa State is a tough job. ISU is not going to land an elite, current head coach. Most likely the new coach will be a coordinator, or a head coach from a non P5 conference.
However, I have to chuckle at those who are panicking because ISU can't expect to hire a big name. Most schools can't. Also, Earle Bruce, Johnny Majors, and even Dan McCarney were not huge names in coaching when they chose to come to ISU. The only one with any previous college head coaching experience was Bruce, and that was one year at Tampa, which I don't think even has football now.
Picking a new coach, like recruiting, is more often than not just a crap shoot. Sometimes you do well, sometimes you blow it. Hopefully, JP can get enough quality input and help from others and find a candidate who can succeed here.
Yes, Iowa State is a tough job. ISU is not going to land an elite, current head coach. Most likely the new coach will be a coordinator, or a head coach from a non P5 conference.
However, I have to chuckle at those who are panicking because ISU can't expect to hire a big name. Most schools can't. Also, Earle Bruce, Johnny Majors, and even Dan McCarney were not huge names in coaching when they chose to come to ISU. The only one with any previous college head coaching experience was Bruce, and that was one year at Tampa, which I don't think even has football now.
Picking a new coach, like recruiting, is more often than not just a crap shoot. Sometimes you do well, sometimes you blow it. Hopefully, JP can get enough quality input and help from others and find a candidate who can succeed here.
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CycloneErik
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Re: Per ESPN Rhodes gone Presser at Noon
Looks like wrestling is over, so cyclones.tv has some time to fill with the presser.
Looks like wrestling is over, so cyclones.tv has some time to fill with the presser.
Of course it isn't black and white. But coaches don't want to lose. No coach worth his salt, comes into a job saying, I can win 6 games a year a few times and keep my job for 7 years. Rhoads didn't think that---it's not like he's sitting over there counting his money and laughing at how he got his.
We can all pat ourselves on the back for being great fans and for upgrading our facilities so that they are comparable to other schools. And that's all good. But get off this board and read what other, non-biased football journalists are saying about the Iowa State job this morning. None of it is good.
I couldn't agree more. Nothing is worse in the fan base than the "We can't get anyone good" or "We are just Iowa State" mentality. F*** that, we are going to get a good coach.
We have a president for the first time maybe ever who understands the importance of top-tier athletics to the university. We have an incredible fan base and great facilities. And most importantly, we will have a deep pocket to sign a quality coach. I have no doubt about that right now.
If you think we just fired a guy with one game left in the season so we could settle for hiring the running backs coach from Coastal Carolina, you are the delusional one, not me.
Re: Per ESPN Rhodes gone Presser at Noon
Pollard meeting with the press at noon tomorrow. CPR meeting with press at 1:30.
Pollard meeting with the press at noon tomorrow. CPR meeting with press at 1:30.
Our facilities are fine now. We have some very promising players at skill positions, heck I've seen threads on Oklahoma boards wishing they wouldn't have let Warren get out of the state.
Stop overreacting. The team is bonehead coaching decisions away from being 5-6 against the #1 SOS in the nation.
Bonehead decisions that warrant a change, but it's not like we're an uncompetitive team with uncompetitive facilities. Our fan support is actually moving against national trends pretty drastically in a positive way...result of more native Iowans going to ISU for a few decades now.
