Coaching Search Rumors - Consolidated Thread

[JackBurtonPCE1]

I hope beyond all hope that ISU does not hire a guy like this Kendall Briles. I think at this point, one thing you can say is that a spread, pass happy offense is not going to work here at ISU. You can't "out-spread" the other spread teams in the conference that will ALWAYS have better athletes than we will. I always had hope that Coach Rhoads would realize this and switch to a more run-based "Wisconsin" type offense.

I don't think an assistant coach at one of the other Big 12 schools will flourish here. He will be used to running his offense with his athletes. We need a guy that can compete with the big boys will lesser talent. If I was Pollard I would be in a semi-truck filled with gold right now on the road driving to Annapolis, Maryland to give it to the Navy coach.

Just this guys thoughts. What so you! Jack Burton, out!

 

[cycloneworld]

Anyone else a little concerned with the "1 year wonder" guys? I know we won't get Herman but guys like Lincoln Riley (half season of success) and Kendall Briles (1 year of success), their resumes are pretty thin.

Maybe its worth a try if you can't get your other candidates (like a Niumatololo, Babers, etc) but I don't think I'd want us to start there. Plus, I think Pollard will want a previous head coach and not someone young and learning on the job.

 

[jsb]

Anyone else a little concerned with the "1 year wonder" guys? I know we won't get Herman but guys like Lincoln Riley (half season of success) and Kendall Briles (1 year of success), their resumes are pretty thin.

Maybe its worth a try if you can't get your other candidates (like a Niumatololo, Babers, etc) but I don't think I'd want us to start there. Plus, I think Pollard will want a previous head coach and not someone young and learning on the job.

again....pollard can only hire someone willing to take the job. Limits things in a year with a lot of openings.

 

[Cyclonick182]

Anyone else a little concerned with the "1 year wonder" guys? I know we won't get Herman but guys like Lincoln Riley (half season of success) and Kendall Briles (1 year of success), their resumes are pretty thin.

Maybe its worth a try if you can't get your other candidates (like a Niumatololo, Babers, etc) but I don't think I'd want us to start there. Plus, I think Pollard will want a previous head coach and not someone young and learning on the job.

We had the learning on the fly fun with Chizik. I think we have to go after someone with at least SOME experience at the helm even if its someone who has been just a coordinator for awhile unless its a bigger name like Scott Frost.

 

[BCClone]

After a few pages of skimming my head started to hurt so I'm not sure what the last half or so said, but here's a response to several I've seen.

Offense, a good coach runs an offense using the best qualities of their players, fit the offense to the players, not players to offense. Allows you to recruit after talent, not just a fullback because you need a fullback. The spread is fine, have people not noticed what we have done in first halves this season, we have done well. In the second half we get leveled for whatever reason it might be, adjustments, conservative play calling, what have you.

One thing ink we have shown is willing to work with a coach and not just say win this year or you're gone. This helps some. For those saying, go ahead and hire a dirt all as a coach, I don't want a Bielema type guy, I just don't. We have extra money coming each year due to TV money so we have some options. We also are about done with some renovation payments on trice or sukup basketball facilities, so that will open up.

Reason on our coach is paid what he is, is that's what the rate for a cpr guy was then.

Question, is Scott frost the qb when Lawrence Phillips was there?

 

[mkadl]

We had the learning on the fly fun with Chizik. I think we have to go after someone with at least SOME experience at the helm even if its someone who has been just a coordinator for awhile unless its a bigger name like Scott Frost.

No Scott Frost my Nebraska fan friends will never ever never let me live it down if we succeed with him. In my book he comes tainted from the start Yes that is how anti Nebraska I am.

 

[Cyclonick182]

No Scott Frost my Nebraska fan friends will never ever never let me live it down if we succeed with him. In my book he comes tainted from the start Yes that is how anti Nebraska I am.

This begs the question, why do you have Nebraska fan friends? :wink:

 

[jsb]

No Scott Frost my Nebraska fan friends will never ever never let me live it down if we succeed with him. In my book he comes tainted from the start Yes that is how anti Nebraska I am.

i would rather hire a Nebraska guy than an Iowa guy.

 

[cycloneworld]

again....pollard can only hire someone willing to take the job. Limits things in a year with a lot of openings.

No it doesn't. We are competing against 2-3 schools for a coach. There are PLENTY of qualified candidates who will be interested in making $2-$2.5 mil per year.

 

[jsb]

No it doesn't. We are competing against 2-3 schools for a coach. There are PLENTY of qualified candidates who will be interested in making $2-$2.5 mil per year.

we will see. Every school with an opening is going to be paying at least 2 million.

 

[BCClone]

again....pollard can only hire someone willing to take the job. Limits things in a year with a lot of openings.

When you you do the glass half full/half empty, do you dump the glass on yourself, call it empty and ***** that you are wet? Most pessimistic person I've read on here.

 

[hawkfan]

No it doesn't. We are competing against 2-3 schools for a coach. There are PLENTY of qualified candidates who will be interested in making $2-$2.5 mil per year.

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

 

[jsb]

When you you do the glass half full/half empty, do you dump the glass on yourself, call it empty and ***** that you are wet? Most pessimistic person I've read on here.

i look forward to all of the great candidates we will have that will be turning down the likes of Illinois and Maryland to take this job. Can't wait to see them.

 

[BCClone]

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

illinois and Maryland? Definitely a hawk fan.

 

[Cyclonick182]

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

You had me til you mentioned UCF. That program is a joke in their own town. They regularly get passed over for FSU, UF, Miami, and USF. They struggle to compete with the likes of FAU and FIU for recruits. At best their 5th fiddle in their own state, at worst 8th. The advantages of being in Florida are pretty much negated when you're not even a top 4 choice for the kids down here.

 

[Rural]

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

The hire here (which I think happens rapidly) won't be waiting on jobs like LSU and USC. Come on.

 

[2forISU]

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

Add LSU to that list

 

[casey1973]

i would rather hire a Nebraska guy than an Iowa guy.

This. All day everyday.

 

[CyFan61]

I'd say all of the following would be more appealing than ISU (that would be viewed as being on the same level):

Illinois
Maryland
South Carolina
Missouri
UCF (Debatable, certainly)

The bigger problem is more openings are coming, and anyone who could get the above jobs will wait on the below jobs before taking them:

USC
Miami
Virginia Tech

I don't know why anyone would accept the ISU job before all of the above job openings are closed. And that's before the LSU job goes on the market, and potentially others that we don't know about yet.

This is a bad year for ISU to be trying to hire someone.

I think you are missing the point of ISU firing Rhoads a week early. They are trying to get moving quickly and perhaps get an offer to their preferred guy quickly.

Pollard hired Rhoads a week after Chizik left for Auburn, and hired Prohm just over a week after Holberg went to the Bulls. I think he will want to move quickly here.

So I could see this ending up as a "bird in the hand" situation. If Iowa State decides that Jeff Brohm or whoever is their guy, they can offer him the job relatively soon. If he wants to wait and see where other things shake out, that's his prerogative, but ISU will be moving on to their next option of course. So I don't think things line up in quite the same neat order that you described (that I wouldn't disagree with) because of that situation. Some guys may decide that the Big 12 offer they have in their hand right now is better than waiting for a Maryland or South Carolina to maybe offer them.

 

[hawkfan]

You had me til you mentioned UCF. That program is a joke in their own town. They regularly get passed over for FSU, UF, Miami, and USF. They struggle to compete with the likes of FAU and FIU for recruits. At best their 5th fiddle in their own state, at worst 8th. The advantages of being in Florida are pretty much negated when you're not even a top 4 choice for the kids down here.

There have been national media members that have stated UCF is a more attractive position than ISU.

I agree that is debatable - I said as much in the post. I think the ISU job is better, but recruiting is certainly more attractive at UCF.