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tolfbfan

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I was wondering about 2013 and 14, because I did not remember those classes being that good. I am looking for ISU to finish up 7 or 8 in the Big 12, which would still be an improvement over prior years. If Campbell can get the core of the returning starters to stay then I still think he has a good shot at a winning season next year. I hope the team has a real offensive identity next year.

I also hope that they will go under center for 3rd and a foot. Just having someone that can figure out how to consistently pick up short yardage first downs would be a huge improvement.

Sorry bro, not likely to happen. But, they will become a physical running team with a hback who destroys people and backs whocan get a yard or two.
 

ShopTalk

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Out of curiosity, where would Texas have landed in your rating system over the same time period?

Always in the top four along with OU, TCU and BU. BUT, after their massive didn't pan out busts of the waning Mack Brown years, last years team was and is more talented than ISU, but very young. All true freshmen they beat on a soaking wet field that negated their speed advantage. On a dry field, ISU loses that one and probably big.

The wet turf field should be given the game ball for that one, or a least a thank you.

And because they're very young, there's a good chance the coach who recruited them won't get to see them winning lots of games in 2017-2018, but the next guy in will and will be heralded wide and far as a recruiting and coaching genius. There's a reason he didn't get all his assistants to come along - they could see how this is most likely to play out.
 
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BWRhasnoAC

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How can these ratings be correct? 247 has us at 8 out of 10. Citing information is important.
 

ShopTalk

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CyRocksMyPants,

Touche. I stand corrected. Does living in HI take some of the sting out of it?
 
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cyrocksmypants

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Always in the top four along with OU, TCU and BU. BUT, after their massive didn't pan out busts of the waning Mack Brown years, last years team was and is more talented than ISU, but very young. All true freshmen they beat on a soaking wet field that negated their speed advantage. On a dry field, ISU loses that one and probably big.

The wet turf field should be given the game ball for that one, or a least a thank you.

And because they're very young, there's a good chance the coach who recruited them won't get to see them winning lots of games in 2017-2018, but the next guy in will and will be heralded wide and far as a recruiting and coaching genius. There's a reason he didn't get all his assistants to come along - they could see how this is most likely to play out.

I'd say their quarterback being unable to throw an accurate pass more than 5 yards downfield had more to do with that game than wet grass.
 

BWRhasnoAC

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Always in the top four along with OU, TCU and BU. BUT, after their massive didn't pan out busts of the waning Mack Brown years, last years team was and is more talented than ISU, but very young. All true freshmen they beat on a soaking wet field that negated their speed advantage. On a dry field, ISU loses that one and probably big.

The wet turf field should be given the game ball for that one, or a least a thank you.

And because they're very young, there's a good chance the coach who recruited them won't get to see them winning lots of games in 2017-2018, but the next guy in will and will be heralded wide and far as a recruiting and coaching genius. There's a reason he didn't get all his assistants to come along - they could see how this is most likely to play out.

Football is played in all weather. Stop belittling the best win in years.
 

ShopTalk

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It left me with a hollow feeling I did not anticipate. Like a cheap thrill - all sugar and no substance like too much cotton candy. Because I could see the talent differential and the weather's saving grace.
 

ShopTalk

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I'd say their quarterback being unable to throw an accurate pass more than 5 yards downfield had more to do with that game than wet grass.

That helped a lot too. ISU NEEDED wet field and terrible, terrible worst in their history throwing QB to win it. And 10 starting true freshmen. IMO, coach Rhoads saw this as well which led to his press comments "We should never beat this team" and "no one on their roster would ever come to ISU". He knew.
 

CloniesForLife

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That helped a lot too. ISU NEEDED wet field and terrible, terrible worst in their history throwing QB to win it. IMO, coach Rhoads saw this as well which led to his press comments "We should never beat this team" and "no one on their roster would ever come to ISU". He knew.

How miserable are you?
 

BWRhasnoAC

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It left me with a hollow feeling I did not anticipate. Like a cheap thrill - all sugar and no substance like too much cotton candy. Because I could see the talent differential and the weather's saving grace.

How about the last 4 or so years before that? When we beat them in Austin, and barely lost two other times? What can we blame that on? Don't say Mack Brown again because Rhoads is 100 times worse than he is at coaching.
 

ShopTalk

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How about the last 4 or so years before that? When we beat them in Austin, and barely lost two other times? What can we blame that on? Don't say Mack Brown again because Rhoads is 100 times worse than he is at coaching.

That win in Austin was awesome. ISU did have a better team that year, or at least one that cared more. Then, Texas finished 5-7 and everyone realized they were epic bad by Texas standards. We already knew that about the 2015 team before the first snap.
 

BWRhasnoAC

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I ranked on average player rating people....come on now, keep up!

What average player rating? You mean like when you take three diferent heralded sites and average their numbers together? Cause that's what I posted. Still waiting for you to site your information.
 

cyrocksmypants

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It left me with a hollow feeling I did not anticipate. Like a cheap thrill - all sugar and no substance like too much cotton candy. Because I could see the talent differential and the weather's saving grace.

Maybe you should move to Hawaii. At the very least, maybe try not to have your self worth determined by the play of a game by some 18-22 year olds.
 

inCyteful

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Always in the top four along with OU, TCU and BU. BUT, after their massive didn't pan out busts of the waning Mack Brown years, last years team was and is more talented than ISU, but very young. All true freshmen they beat on a soaking wet field that negated their speed advantage. On a dry field, ISU loses that one and probably big.

The wet turf field should be given the game ball for that one, or a least a thank you.

And because they're very young, there's a good chance the coach who recruited them won't get to see them winning lots of games in 2017-2018, but the next guy in will and will be heralded wide and far as a recruiting and coaching genius. There's a reason he didn't get all his assistants to come along - they could see how this is most likely to play out.

What I thought on both counts.

Bold, aggressive and incyteful analysis of our 24-0 shut out of them. I am sure you can find stats that would indicate that game was one of the 10 slipperiest in the last decade?

And - Ignoring the youth and inexperience of our defense (same defense that shut Texas out).

Point is, if you want to go by these relative recruiting levels there is no way Texas shouldn't be in the top 1/2 of the Big XII and bowling this year.

I don't think recruiting was CPR's main problem. The talent on this team was good enough to get to a bowl, his coaching skills weren't.

Not sure which camp you fall in, CPR apologist or one that expected to land a Tom Herman level coach. Or maybe just laying the foundation to say 'I told you so' if CMC doesn't perform as expected. In any case, I am sure you will have a variety of statistical approaches to indicate why we shouldn't see some hope and encouragement in CMC's approach.
 

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