Sideline Rules (in KU/OU game)

WastedTalent

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What a joke.

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Eh, WUT? Do you think Self gets a technical if Mason isn't called for that ridiculous foul? Come on. And if your rule for a foul being a big deal is that there was still time for the team that got screwed to recover then tell every ISU fan that complains about the foul on EJ by Niang to shut up because they still had a five minute OT to "recover". Talk about hypocrisy at its finest. What a joke.

Yes, they did. And they didn't. That doesn't negate the fact that Georges was called for fouling the jackwagon that was SITTING ON HIM. If you don't see the problem with that foul...or the extra foul Withey had in that game...

The game might not have required OT, might have ended with regulation if not for the bogus foul & subsequent FT's. KU might have inbounded and made the shot, or ISU might have made the stop. BUT NEITHER TEAM GOT THE CHANCE BECAUSE OF THE BOGUS FOUL ON GEORGES.

Oh hell, why bother?
 
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Yes, they did. And they didn't. That doesn't negate the fact that Georges was called for fouling the jackwagon that was SITTING ON HIM. If you don't see the problem with that foul...or the extra foul Withey had in that game... The game might not have required OT, might have ended with regulation if not for the bogus foul & subsequent FT's. KU might have inbounded and made the shot, or ISU might have made the stop. BUT NEITHER TEAM GOT THE CHANCE BECAUSE OF THE BOGUS FOUL ON GEORGES. Oh hell, why bother?
I didn't say anything about seeing or not seeing a problem with that foul. That's a different topic altogether. My response was ONLY to say that you cannot dismiss the ridiculous call on Mason that resulted in not only foul shots for OU instead of easy points for KU PLAY a technical on our coach that resulted in even more easy points for OU simply because "there was time to recover from it" and that if "there was time to recover from it" is the golden rule of whether or not a bad call should be dismissed as not that big a deal then the Niang/EJ play should also be dismissed from the complaint list since ISU also had "time to recover from it" in the five minute OT. That's all.
 

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I didn't say anything about seeing or not seeing a problem with that foul. That's a different topic altogether. My response was ONLY to say that you cannot dismiss the ridiculous call on Mason that resulted in not only foul shots for OU instead of easy points for KU PLAY a technical on our coach that resulted in even more easy points for OU simply because "there was time to recover from it" and that if "there was time to recover from it" is the golden rule of whether or not a bad call should be dismissed as not that big a deal then the Niang/EJ play should also be dismissed from the complaint list since ISU also had "time to recover from it" in the five minute OT. That's all.

Nope. You're wrong. End of story.
 

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Let's just all agree on this. Kansas has gotten plenty of calls to go their way. Even if they got the bad end of calls in the game Monday they are still way ahead on getting calls.
 

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Sorry, Tuco. The foul is on the officials - the technical is on Self. Fred got hosed at the end of a game on a horrible turn of events and he didn't even come close to melting down and drawing a technical. If Self didn't want to get a technical and give up free throws he was free to express his displeasure in a more appropriate manner. He chose to act like a petulant child using language that forced the official to make the call. He knew when he totally blew up with profanity at a ref within arms distance what the outcome would be and he chose to do it anyway.

For the record, I would have been ****** too if I were him, but you have to be in control of your own emotions or suffer the consequences.
 

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Sorry, Tuco. The foul is on the officials - the technical is on Self. Fred got hosed at the end of a game on a horrible turn of events and he didn't even come close to melting down and drawing a technical. If Self didn't want to get a technical and give up free throws he was free to express his displeasure in a more appropriate manner. He chose to act like a petulant child using language that forced the official to make the call. He knew when he totally blew up with profanity at a ref within arms distance what the outcome would be and he chose to do it anyway. For the record, I would have been ****** too if I were him, but you have to be in control of your own emotions or suffer the consequences.
That's all well and good but it's pointless to the conversation. I am not arguing that Self didn't deserve a technical foul; he did. I don't blame him at all. His choice of vocabulary mirrored mine exactly at the moment. The technical ONLY happened as a result of the terrible call. No terrible call = no technical foul. There isn't any debate to have about it.
 
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With unlimited depth for the in-bounder, why not step up on the scorer's table or even behind it? Surely there isn't a rule specifying that the player's feet have to be on the court. Assuming the play isn't designed to go back to the in-bounder, it doesn't matter if it takes him a couple seconds to get back on the court.

That is not allowed as that is gaining an advantage (standing on the table). He could have given the table a hard shove backwards to create space though :smile:
 

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It takes a lot of talent to talk out both sides of the mouth.
Really? It seems to happening all over the place with no trouble at all. "Ignore the BS call on Mason but demand an apology for the BS call on Niang" has flowed through this thread like Bud Light through my intestines.
 

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That's all well and good but it's pointless to the conversation. I am not arguing that Self didn't deserve a technical foul; he did. I don't blame him at all. His choice of vocabulary mirrored mine exactly at the moment. The technical ONLY happened as a result of the terrible call. No terrible call = no technical foul. There isn't any debate to have about it.

It is not pointless in the conversation. Self wasn't constrained to make the foolish play. He took the opportunity to give up points. Those points are on him not on poor officiating.

I imagine you are one of those people who tell the officer loading you in the paddy wagon that it wasn't your fault; your wife made you hit her because she said something stupid.
 

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It is not pointless in the conversation. Self wasn't constrained to make the foolish play. He took the opportunity to give up points. Those points are on him not on poor officiating. I imagine you are one of those people who tell the officer loading you in the paddy wagon that it wasn't your fault; your wife made you hit her because she said something stupid.
Oh my goodness.
 

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Really? It seems to happening all over the place with no trouble at all. "Ignore the BS call on Mason but demand an apology for the BS call on Niang" has flowed through this thread like Bud Light through my intestines.

We are getting close to the first step; admitting fault.
 

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Really? It seems to happening all over the place with no trouble at all. "Ignore the BS call on Mason but demand an apology for the BS call on Niang" has flowed through this thread like Bud Light through my intestines.

If were going to start getting apology letters for a bad tick tac foul call in the first half of the game ISU need as to build a bigger apology wall.