Tent outside Hilton catches fire....

ISUagger

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Here’s my theory: Don’t oversell student tickets.

Stay with me here, I’m going somewhere with this. We started to oversell student tickets because our attendance sucked for the games students were not excited about. There was always a group of die-hards that went to every game (myself included, from 2010-2014), but there is always the “fringe fans†that were indifferent to a majority of the games. Now that would be fine if they sold their tickets to someone who wanted to go. Usually these fans were too lazy to do that which created empty seats. So our solution was to overfill the pool so that when it was crowded we lost some water, but we still can’t keep it full for every game. The fringe fans are still fringe fans, but now they have the “I won’t be able to get a seat anyways†excuse.

I think we can take care of these fringe fans in an easy way that requires little manpower from the university. Make it so you have to pick up individual tickets for every game a few days before. If the deadline passes and the ticket isn’t claimed, there should be a clause saying the university can resell your ticket for additional profit to someone who actually cares and will go to the game. This will keep the lazy people from having an empty seat with their name on it. The intention is to top off the pool instead of overfilling it. I know what you are thinking, people will still pick up tickets and not use them because they paid for it. At least there is a chance that those people, who obviously aren’t extremely lazy, will sell their ticket.

Nothing sucked more my senior year than having a mandatory class on gameday, and knowing there would be no way I could get a seat for a big game. The main reason IMO that the lines have gotten so ridiculous is because the threat of a non-guaranteed seat. I’m not saying we should get rid of lines. I think lines are a great way to put the most passionate fans up front. The people freezing their butts off deserve the best seat. Assigned seat would put underserving people up front. However, some people deserve to go that don’t have the time to stand in line for two days. Their seat may not be good, but god damn it they can still go and cheer for their team.

Anyways, I think that would be worth a try. Feel free to poke holes in it or make revisions.
 

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Here’s my theory: Don’t oversell student tickets.

Stay with me here, I’m going somewhere with this. We started to oversell student tickets because our attendance sucked for the games students were not excited about. There was always a group of die-hards that went to every game (myself included, from 2010-2014), but there is always the “fringe fans†that were indifferent to a majority of the games. Now that would be fine if they sold their tickets to someone who wanted to go. Usually these fans were too lazy to do that which created empty seats. So our solution was to overfill the pool so that when it was crowded we lost some water, but we still can’t keep it full for every game. The fringe fans are still fringe fans, but now they have the “I won’t be able to get a seat anyways†excuse.

I think we can take care of these fringe fans in an easy way that requires little manpower from the university. Make it so you have to pick up individual tickets for every game a few days before. If the deadline passes and the ticket isn’t claimed, there should be a clause saying the university can resell your ticket for additional profit to someone who actually cares and will go to the game. This will keep the lazy people from having an empty seat with their name on it. The intention is to top off the pool instead of overfilling it. I know what you are thinking, people will still pick up tickets and not use them because they paid for it. At least there is a chance that those people, who obviously aren’t extremely lazy, will sell their ticket.

Nothing sucked more my senior year than having a mandatory class on gameday, and knowing there would be no way I could get a seat for a big game. The main reason IMO that the lines have gotten so ridiculous is because the threat of a non-guaranteed seat. I’m not saying we should get rid of lines. I think lines are a great way to put the most passionate fans up front. The people freezing their butts off deserve the best seat. Assigned seat would put underserving people up front. However, some people deserve to go that don’t have the time to stand in line for two days. Their seat may not be good, but god damn it they can still go and cheer for their team.

Anyways, I think that would be worth a try. Feel free to poke holes in it or make revisions.

Whatever happened to the program that kept track of a student's attendance at the games? Is that still around? What if you went back to individual tickets to the big games like they used to do and base your position on your attendance to the non-conference season? Wouldn't that solve some of the problems?

Or maybe you just oversell the non-conference by reducing the student section and sell some of those as individual game tickets to the public.
 

UKCyclone

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This whole thing is amusing to me. I was in school 05-09. I went to every single game. I sat front row probably 80% and front 10 rows in all of them. I never set up a tent. Earliest I probably ever got there was 6 or 8 hours.

I can tell you I'd be out there a week early if that's what it took. It definitely builds excitement, you have way more invested in the outcome after being out in the cold for days or hours than if you just show up at tip like kids did in my day.

I also slept overnight for the Iowa football games in 05 and 07, lets get that going again.
 

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Whatever happened to the program that kept track of a student's attendance at the games? Is that still around? What if you went back to individual tickets to the big games like they used to do and base your position on your attendance to the non-conference season? Wouldn't that solve some of the problems?

Or maybe you just oversell the non-conference by reducing the student section and sell some of those as individual game tickets to the public.

They still keep track of attendance and usually give out some kind of swag for the best attenders, They did make it so you have to swipe your card later at a women's game though, I believe.
 

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I think they could certainly find an indoor spot where people could line up (though that might make the line unmanageably longer). I'm sure someone could come up with a better alternative to a little shanty town built in freezing cold weather.

Great, let's take all the fun outta be a college student. They have 4 years to make responsible decisions(aka have fun) before they have to join the real world.
Stop helicoptering with these rediculous indoor ideas, please.
 

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Somone should tell them to practice couch burning outside the tent.
 

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I love the enthusiasm, but why not limit the lining up to 48 or 72 before the game. Anyone "camped" out before that time will be removed.

Then there would be a line for the line. Just stop and let the kids have fun.
 

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After a parent sues the university for something bad happening to their idiot kid while he/she camped out waiting to get tickets.

Students have car wrecks driving to games, maybe we should have a bus go pick em all up. Good Lord people, it was a tent fire, it's not like someone spilled bong water.
 

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I would do some type of loyality program...you earn your way to best seats. Meaning, freshman year you may only get x games as a Bronze level but also earn credit for attending a couple non-revenue sports....soph year you are silver level and get more games and can get more pref with attendance at a few other non-revenue, etc.

I know, lots of logistics....but a thought.

Also....I look forward to hear how this may change due to risk management as I bet there is a policy somewhere (or will be) about this re: heaters, etc....and then how to enforce during tailgating...just a can of worms to open up. :)
 

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Great, let's take all the fun outta be a college student. They have 4 years to make responsible decisions(aka have fun) before they have to join the real world.
Stop helicoptering with these rediculous indoor ideas, please.

I know the only fun I had in college was waiting in line for a game. If I didn't do that, college would have sucked.
 

ISUagger

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Whatever happened to the program that kept track of a student's attendance at the games? Is that still around? What if you went back to individual tickets to the big games like they used to do and base your position on your attendance to the non-conference season? Wouldn't that solve some of the problems?

Or maybe you just oversell the non-conference by reducing the student section and sell some of those as individual game tickets to the public.

When I was in school they used a system like that to give out prizes (CAC, aka pure evil to most posters). I would have no problem using a system like this to give out seating, but I feel like they would tie womens basketball attendance into it as well.

They could either sell the extra tickets from no-shows or the general public. I think it would be great to get recent alumni back to the games and keep them connected to the university.
 

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They still keep track of attendance and usually give out some kind of swag for the best attenders, They did make it so you have to swipe your card later at a women's game though, I believe.

They got rid of that when they quit requiring T-shirts for the game.
 

SCarolinaCy

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I think it would work for sure. I'm not sure how psyched the university would be about turning part of that building into a slumber party for parts of December-February though. But there's a lot of room there and they could mark off particular rooms for sleeping, etc.
And, you are going to allow booze, same as in tents?