Cameron Lard Thread

[IP Guy]

I'm with Thompson on this one. Barring something drastically changing, I would hope the lineup would be:

PG: Monte
SG: Naz
SF: Matt
PF: Burton
C: Malou

6th Man of the Year: Donovan Jackson (May still lead the team in scoring off the bench)

I just hope one of the young bigs can develop enough (and quickly enough) to be a major contributor.

 

[RustShack]

Malou is a SF, but he will play the 4 here.

 

[allfourcy]

I'm with Thompson on this one. Barring something drastically changing, I would hope the lineup would be:

PG: Monte
SG: Naz
SF: Matt
PF: Burton
C: Malou

6th Man of the Year: Donovan Jackson (May still lead the team in scoring off the bench)

I just hope one of the young bigs can develop enough (and quickly enough) to be a major contributor.

I realize he'll be more experienced and a senior and all, but if Burton is our starting 4 we are going to be extremely small. He has a long way to go to be trustworthy on offense or defense.

 

[RustShack]

I realize he'll be more experienced and a senior and all, but if Burton is our starting 4 we are going to be extremely small. He has a long way to go to be trustworthy on offense or defense.

Unless he's starting at the 3. Long could/would be willing to be the "Tyrus McGee" type of 6th man.

 

[Cyforce]

I'm with Thompson on this one. Barring something drastically changing, I would hope the lineup would be:

PG: Monte
SG: Naz
SF: Matt
PF: Burton
C: Malou

6th Man of the Year: Donovan Jackson (May still lead the team in scoring off the bench)

I just hope one of the young bigs can develop enough (and quickly enough) to be a major contributor.

That lineup gets pounded inside in the Big XII.

Malou has to be our 4 with Burton playing the 3 and a little 4.

If we don't get another big we'd be better off rotating the ones we have at the 5 eating fouls instead of Malou.
Hope that's not the case and we sign a Juco or a SR Grad.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

I realize he'll be more experienced and a senior and all, but if Burton is our starting 4 we are going to be extremely small. He has a long way to go to be trustworthy on offense or defense.

It would not be much different than when we play him at the four now, and he could start and not play much more than this year. With a lot of guards and no proven bigs, maybe we would go to zone as our base defense.

 

[im4cyclones]

If Carter can't any minutes right now, I have my doubts he can pull it off. I hopeful Ernst is ahead of him when healthy, Lard can play, and Young can fill in at the four too. A Burton-Malou frontcourt could be ugly on defense, although going zone may help.

We get a good post-grad transfer and this is all moot.

Yeah, everyone stays at the same level as they entered college. Dude, come on. He is a true freshman. Naz didn't get a lot of minutes his Fr. year. And yet, magically, he was able to later. How do you suppose that happened?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Maybe Carter takes a big leap this offseason?

Nah, the experts at CF say that players never improve.

 

[RustShack]

Yeah, everyone stays at the same level as they entered college. Dude, come on. He is a true freshman. Naz didn't get a lot of minutes his Fr. year. And yet, magically, he was able to later. How do you suppose that happened?

I'm trying not to laugh. Obviously he's going to get better, and hopefully he improves enough to get some minutes next year.

 

[CyFan61]

Nah, the experts at CF say that players never improve.

Naz Long as a freshman to a sophomore was like night and day; I would love to see Carter make that jump.

 

[allfourcy]

It would not be much different than when we play him at the four now, and he could start and not play much more than this year. With a lot of guards and no proven bigs, maybe we would go to zone as our base defense.

Playing him at the four only if both McKay and Niang are out at the same time, or if both Niang and Nader out at the same time. Usually doesn't happen much unless we're in foul trouble.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Naz Long as a freshman to a sophomore was like night and day; I would love to see Carter make that jump.

Me too. Easier for a guard to do, but if Carter can just defend, rebound and get garbage buckets, I think the guards can carry the team. Still think we push hard for a transfer big though.

 

[allfourcy]

I'm trying not to laugh. Obviously he's going to get better, and hopefully he improves enough to get some minutes next year.

Not saying he won't improve, but if you're going to compare him to Naz's improvement from freshmen to sophomore year, that's just not comparable.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

1.)Yeah, everyone stays at the same level as they entered college. Dude, come on. He is a true freshman.
2.)Naz didn't get a lot of minutes his Fr. year. And yet, magically, he was able to later. How do you suppose that happened?

1.) We are talking about Carter being "our 5" next year. Yes, guys improve over 4 years, but what he develops to in Year 3 or 4 is irrelevant to this discussion. No no one is saying he could not improve to a degree that he gets some minutes as a bench guy, similar to Edozie as a junior.
2.)The depth in front of him left. Guys like Lucious, McGee, Babb, Clyburn, and even Bubu. Naz had to compete for minutes whereas Carter is playing behind guards and null.

Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

 

[Thompsonclone]

To the people who say Malou can't and won't be our 5. What is your reasoning behind that? He and McKay are basically the same size. Malou hadn't been playing on the perimeter as much as he did at ABCD. I thought he was a SF too and then I watched a bunch of his games this year and he's spent most of his time posting up.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

To the people who say Malou can't and won't be our 5. What is your reasoning behind that? He and McKay are basically the same size. Malou hadn't been playing on the perimeter as much as he did at ABCD. I thought he was a SF too and then I watched a bunch of his games this year and he's spent most of his time posting up.

In Hoiball with Georges I think he is probably not that much less prepared to do so than McKay was. If Prohm utilizes mismatches as well as Hoiberg it should work on offense, albeit with far less Georges created easy buckets. Imo defense is the concern with a Burton-McKay frontcourt. Without Georges our offense is likely to be not as lethal, and it is hard to see us make up the ground on the other end with that frontcourt combo imo. With a lot of bodies maybe we combine uptempo/transition with zone.

 

[RustShack]

To the people who say Malou can't and won't be our 5. What is your reasoning behind that? He and McKay are basically the same size. Malou hadn't been playing on the perimeter as much as he did at ABCD. I thought he was a SF too and then I watched a bunch of his games this year and he's spent most of his time posting up.

You claim to have seen him play, yet McKay is your player comparison? Lol

 

[Thompsonclone]

You claim to have seen him play, yet McKay is your player comparison? Lol

Reading is hard. I never compared their ability or playing style. I compared their size and that's it. I don't know who I would compare Malou to. He's way more skilled than McKay but maybe not as skilled as we thought. Only shot 19% from 3 this year. I said he can play the 5 because he's the same height as McKay and he's actually a better shot blocker. Anybody can watch him play if you just look for Yuba replays on YouTube.

Watch this replay if you don't believe me that Malou spends a lot of time posting up and blocking shots down low. http://youtu.be/cgcYgG7W1YE

 

[RustShack]

This is rich.

 

[isucy86]

To the people who say Malou can't and won't be our 5. What is your reasoning behind that? He and McKay are basically the same size. Malou hadn't been playing on the perimeter as much as he did at ABCD. I thought he was a SF too and then I watched a bunch of his games this year and he's spent most of his time posting up.

There is no comparison to Malou and McKay's skill set offensively. Malou has 3 point range, so if his game compares to anyone it is Niang. The second issue is your projecting Burton to start at PF. That is crazy. First, based on this years play, he isn't consistent enough to start. Second, he hasn't shown to be a good rebounder.

If I had to guess Carter or Ernst will be our center. Maybe they split minutes. I also see the possibility of our signing a JUCO or transfer to play post.