Big 12 realignment is back...looks like real changes coming soon.

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If we go west it's BYU, CSU doesn't have a chance, and they don't deserve one. It's only BYU if they are a member just like everyone else with no special stipulations.(but I doubt we go west).

Cincinati is the lock.

Houston is the next most deserving, but being in Texas kind of hurts them. Then again, it could hurt the Big12 even more if another conference scoops them up... Big12 recruiting took a big hit when aTm went to the SEC and blew the pipeline open to them.

UCONN makes some sense, but not in location at all. Memphis makes a lot more sense for location, but isn't as good of a program.

ACC GOT dissolving would be best case, but who knows if/when that actually happens.

Without the ACC Cincinati, Houston, and BYU are the best available... Unless Notre Dame budges, which will happen eventually but it'll take them just barely missing the playoffs but could have got in had they won a conference championship.
Texas being good fixes the Texas recruiting problem for the Big 12. Not adding another Texas school. Houston adds nothing to this conference. To have them over UConnn is nothing short of ridiculous. You are guaranteed to lose money in that deal.
 

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Toledo isn't the worst program we've lost to- you're not that special. ;)

Hey- you need to head over to the O-line nightmare thread to ease our nerves with "the plan."

I can only do so much. I can't talk everyone off the ledge! Sadly, there are some fans who need padded rooms, heavy doses of meds, and pleasure their prostate classes. I'm just a conservative from the Great State of Ohio, but I have slept in a Red Roof Inn. It's all I have to offer!!!
 

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I think I may be the only fan who doesn't care at all. If we get relegated to a non P5 conference I'll find somebody else to root for and still wish ISU well.

PS- it probably helps to not worry about such things when I know such things will not be happening.
 

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Obviously one of the if not the biggest problem with BYU is travel. But if you think about it, it's only one game the current schools have to do that for... And every other year. If they are Ok with that, you'd think we could handle it too.
 

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I think I may be the only fan who doesn't care at all. If we get relegated to a non P5 conference I'll find somebody else to root for and still wish ISU well.

PS- it probably helps to not worry about such things when I know such things will not be happening.

I am not worrying about it either, if it happens great if not 10 is fine. At the end of the day we will be in the P65 no matter how it shakes out.
 

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Obviously one of the if not the biggest problem with BYU is travel. But if you think about it, it's only one game the current schools have to do that for... And every other year. If they are Ok with that, you'd think we could handle it too.

We would not take BYU for just football. Pac 12 was a perfect fit for BYU and the Pac 12 passed........and has passed on them repeatedly.
 

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This whole idea makes me gag. And I was a big proponent the first go around, too.

We have a de facto NATIONAL Big XII network, with everybody getting every football game save one on a national network like ESPN or FOX. Why in heaven's name would we want to go to a conference network that most people across the country would not get without buying an expensive sports tier?

And UConn and Cincy? Both good schools, but if those are our only options and the conference believes we have to jump on it right now even though both would be available at any time going forward, well, let's just say it isn't a long term proposition and we will be looking for a home in the future anyway.

The ten team round robin has been a boon to the league. Best schedule in football, best basketball by a mile. Other than WVU, schedules and travel have not been an issue. If this is anything other than a bluff to pry open the ACC I will be vastly, immensely, disappointed.
 

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We would not take BYU for just football. Pac 12 was a perfect fit for BYU and the Pac 12 passed........and has passed on them repeatedly.

I didn't say anything about just football. And I also said we probably aren't going West, but in this day and age travel isn't that big of an optical anymore if that's the biggest problem.
 

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The ACC has "protected rivalry" games where two teams that are not in the same division still play each other every year. I expect that the Big 12 would develop some sort of scheduling system that would allow for that.

Texas and OU only want to play once a year, period. If they are in a protected rivalry, yet in different divisions and each one wins their division, they would play each other again in the conference championship game. Meaning, they play 2x in the same year, which is why they want to stay in the same division so they can avoid any chance of this happening.
 

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I haven't researched this subject very much, outside of what i read here, so could you explain to me why the ACC is so much easier to poach teams from than the Big 12? Why are is the Big 12 on such solid footing to poach from another P5 conference when all the talk on the street is how the Big 12 is the conference that isn't surviving?

They have a GOR just like us, right?

More than the GOR, the ACC promised schools a certain amount of monies per year, so far, no school has received the amount they were promised in their new agreement. Several schools have been very vocal about not being happy with the ACC big wigs. The most vocal has been Florida State who actually mentioned looking into the Big 12 before last year. It was a scare tactic to get the ACC moving on the money problem, but so far it seems, nothing has changed.
 

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This whole idea makes me gag. And I was a big proponent the first go around, too.

We have a de facto NATIONAL Big XII network, with everybody getting every football game save one on a national network like ESPN or FOX. Why in heaven's name would we want to go to a conference network that most people across the country would not get without buying an expensive sports tier?

And UConn and Cincy? Both good schools, but if those are our only options and the conference believes we have to jump on it right now even though both would be available at any time going forward, well, let's just say it isn't a long term proposition and we will be looking for a home in the future anyway.

The ten team round robin has been a boon to the league. Best schedule in football, best basketball by a mile. Other than WVU, schedules and travel have not been an issue. If this is anything other than a bluff to pry open the ACC I will be vastly, immensely, disappointed.

If you want Isu to win more fball games then you want expansion and u want expansion with teams like uconn and cinnci...uconn brings the NYC tv market...pretty easy to see why them...as for a conf network it's called $$$. Look at the big ten..those teams will make at least $15 mil more a year next go around..at least. Not to mention other Iowa st sports will be on a conf network and that's appealing to those other sports..men's and women's.

So you would rather the conf add oh say Florida st and Notre dame? No thanks. Isu woild never win again...again..if you are an Isu fan I cannot fathom how any Isu fan wouldn't be in favor of expansion..not to mention it solidifies our conference as a Power Conf. Who cares about round robin and everyone plays everyone...so you ant to be unique jist to be unique but jeapordize Isu being in a major conf?
 

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If you want Isu to win more fball games then you want expansion and u want expansion with teams like uconn and cinnci...uconn brings the NYC tv market...pretty easy to see why them...as for a conf network it's called $$$. Look at the big ten..those teams will make at least $15 mil more a year next go around..at least. Not to mention other Iowa st sports will be on a conf network and that's appealing to those other sports..men's and women's.

So you would rather the conf add oh say Florida st and Notre dame? No thanks. Isu woild never win again...again..if you are an Isu fan I cannot fathom how any Isu fan wouldn't be in favor of expansion..not to mention it solidifies our conference as a Power Conf. Who cares about round robin and everyone plays everyone...so you ant to be unique jist to be unique but jeapordize Isu being in a major conf?

^^^ this!
 

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I think I may be the only fan who doesn't care at all. If we get relegated to a non P5 conference I'll find somebody else to root for and still wish ISU well.

PS- it probably helps to not worry about such things when I know such things will not be happening.

So if ISU wasn't P5 you would check in your fan card and switch to another team? Wow I wish it was that easy for me. I could have saved myself agony and switched years ago. I am an ISU fan, conference affiliation does not change that.
 

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This whole idea makes me gag. And I was a big proponent the first go around, too.

We have a de facto NATIONAL Big XII network, with everybody getting every football game save one on a national network like ESPN or FOX. Why in heaven's name would we want to go to a conference network that most people across the country would not get without buying an expensive sports tier?

And UConn and Cincy? Both good schools, but if those are our only options and the conference believes we have to jump on it right now even though both would be available at any time going forward, well, let's just say it isn't a long term proposition and we will be looking for a home in the future anyway.

The ten team round robin has been a boon to the league. Best schedule in football, best basketball by a mile. Other than WVU, schedules and travel have not been an issue. If this is anything other than a bluff to pry open the ACC I will be vastly, immensely, disappointed.

Conference network wouldn't change our tier 1 and tier 2 just tier 3 games (the ones on cyclone tv). The big 10 has a deal which has a lot of their tier 2 going to their conference network.
 

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10 teams is great, and could be the perfect conference size. But it's not worth us being at a disadvantage every year with no one else only being 10 teams. Constantly harder schedules, no championship games, can't dodge top teams like most other teams get the luxury of for a few extra potential wins.