I think it will be the wildfire too. A second guess would be some secret about the high sparrow that he's trying to hide; maybe his true identity or something.
Game of Thrones Season 6
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I think it will be the wildfire too. A second guess would be some secret about the high sparrow that he's trying to hide; maybe his true identity or something.
Brienne's trip was not a waste. She got the Tully army out of River run. Where do you think they'll go? It only makes sense that they head north to support Sansa.
Were they captured or allowed safe passage? I guess I wasn't clear on that. Is Endure still captive then?
The way I understood it, Riverrun is effectively hostage by the Lannisters/Frey. The only difference is that Edmure will have an improved cell and visits from his family (a Lannister always pays his debts). The Tulley's had to throw down their arms and exit the castle, so the Lannisters/Freys would need to rearm them and allow them to head North, which doesn't make sense because the Freys hold Winterfell. My guess is that the Tulley's, under the rule of Edmure, will pledge their loyalty to the Lannisters.
I actually kind of enjoyed this episode, because it didn't give me what I expected:
* Beric Dondarrion is still alive, so that pretty much kills any hope of seeing a Lady Stoneheart appearance
* Arya wasn't Jaquen in disguise, nor was the Waif an alternate personality - Arya is just Arya. And for some reason fans are cynical about this bad-*** girl, who is solely driven to survive so she can punish the people that have caused her pain. Yet, we don't bat an eye that the Hound is alive for the same reasons...
*Brienne actually seemed to get through to Jamie. I don't think Season 1 Jamie would have had that talk with Edmure and instead would have fought his way into the castle. Jamie and Brienne kept their promise - the castle was taken without bloodshed. You could argue that the Blackfish dying is considered bloodshed, but the way events unfolded, he wasn't part of the Tulley army at that point.
*Lost in all of this is: where is Varys going? After that scene I looked at my wife and said "Tyrion really does well when he has a character to play off of, like Varys and Bronn. Now he's just going to sit around Mareen by himself?" Hilarious and kind of interesting that Tyrion has to create his friends by getting Misendei and Greyworm drunk. I thought it was really sad that Tyrion talks about wanting a vineyard and only his "closest friends" could drink. You could tell as he was saying that he understood that he doesn't have any friends - perhaps no one really does in this story.
The army was disarmed and marched out as prisoners. It is doubtful that Jaimie would be stupid enough to just set them free. They would either join something like the Brotherhood or take to raiding on their own. I doubt they would be inclined to go all the way to Winterfell against the wishes of their lord. I mean, they surrendered without a fight because he said so and they hadn't seen him in months. No, the Tully army is done. We barely knew ya.
This. A friend of mine and I were talking about how it is really starting to feel like D&D have lost the threads of what holds the show together. They are mishandling major points. Sure they may know how the show ends but they don't know how to weave the story together. That is why we get things like Dorne and people traveling ridiculous distances in one episode. I know I have been accused of being a whiner but the reason I complain is because I want the show to be as good as it can be and this last episode wasn't. I also don't want a huge fight for the whole next episode and then everyone thinks everything is great. Braveheart had a lot of awesome huge fight scenes but the quiet interactions of the characters are what made the movie great.
Different taste in styles of interest I guess. Braveheart didn't feel complex at all. Even when the plot was moving forward it felt trudging at certain points. Definitely a movie where at the end I felt like there was about 30 or so minutes of filler garbage (found both in action scenes and the "quiet interactions" you mention.) LoTR had similar deficiencies, same with Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy. I think you're just seeking something that the general public has no interest in and since all things are built toward the lowest common denominator you are out thinking the show which prevents you from enjoying it as it is. All shows can improve but to be as upset as you appear to be about it really just makes everyone wonder why you waste your time watching something you know won't be up to your standards.
I agree that there is always editing that can be done. Braveheart was just an example of where the fighting is cool but the best parts are not in those scenes. The scene where his wife dies is powerful, for example. It is hard to convey emotion on the internet I suppose. I am extremely disappointed with the whole Arya thing and that is clouding my opinion. There are some good parts from the last episode. I loved the Hound parts, the parts with Pod, Jaimie's conversation with Edmure was very good, the Mountain (Although I wish he had killed all of those guys), and Cersei.
I just can't get over the fact that Arya was stabbed three times in the guts, with the knife twisted, and she somehow is up and running around. Oh sure, she is bleeding a little bit but that is minor. At least give me some magic potion or something so I can make it work.
The Freys do not hold Winterfell; the Boltons do. And the Boltons themselves have acknowledged they have turned on the crown. If the rest of Westeros knew that Ramsay Bolton was now in charge of Winterfell they probably wouldn't hesitate to have it sacked (Ramsay being legitimized or not).
This may come into play sooner than later. I would not be shocked to see Jamie aiding the Starks. His whole conversation with Edmure about admiring Catelyns resolve and notes of leniency for not killing him could be telling. Ultimately they will all have to get along to fight the walkers, but it would be kind of cool if they support Jon in some way. May too far away though.
Sorry, my bad. Lady Walda Frey was married to Roose Bolton, so I got that confused. The Frey's have a strong connection to Winterfell and it depends on if they want to see Ramsay pay for killing Walda and her son (and rightful heir) or if they will support him against the Starks.
Unless there isnt a Cersei to get back to....
If Littlefinger can get from the Aerie to the Wall in 1 episode, I think Jaime can ride down a road to KL pretty quickly. I expect him back there by the last episode and then everything is going to explode. Tommen dies in the last episode. Write it down!
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If they would have been allowed safe passage, as per the plan Breinne and Jaime discussed, there would have been no need for Brienne and Pod to escape via boat. I think it's safe to say the Riverrun forces will not be coming to the aid of Jon and Sansa.
