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If you watch the last replay closely you can see the OSU player flick the ball away from Monte...that's why Monte was so adamant about it being ISU's ball.
To be fair, if that sort of call were overturned against ISU there'd be a substantial number of people b****ing up a storm on here
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It only has to be one foot as long as no part of the body is touching out of bounds. By your definition a one legged player could never legally be inbounds
I thought the OSU player was inbounds as his left foot was down inbounds and he had picked up his right foot and it was in the air when he initially touched the ball. On the replays, I thought he was the last to touch the ball when he did a late swipe but it was so close that I didn't think they would overturn the court call. And no, I have never seen a one legged player but I have reffed a game with a one armed player. He even shot and made a couple of 12-15 ft set shots (couldn't really jump, control the ball with only one hand and shoot it).
It only applies when coming in from out of bounds (you only need to re-establish yourself in bounds if you weren't in bounds initially), so a one-legged player is irrelevant unless he was stepping in bounds during a live-ball situation. Think of it like an over-and-back call: the player has to be fully established in the frontcourt after coming across the timeline in order for him to legally touch the ball, same with coming in from out of bounds.It only has to be one foot as long as no part of the body is touching out of bounds. By your definition a one legged player could never legally be inbounds
And no, I have never seen a one legged player but I have reffed a game with a one armed player. He even shot and made a couple of 12-15 ft set shots (couldn't really jump, control the ball with only one hand and shoot it).
I was in Cyclone Alley on that end of the floor, on the second tier but only 5 rows up. It looked to me like the direction of the ball made it clear that it had to be touched by the Okey State player. As others have already said, it seems as though the OSU player hadn't reestablished his position in bounds anyways.
From the slow motion, it appeared to me that he might not have touched in bounds before touching the ball, IF he had both feet off the ground, he could have been ruled "in the air" when he touched the ball. Not establishing contact in bounds before touching the ball. Not called very often though. Only takes one toe with nothing else touching out of bounds.
Passed that, I think the real touching moment was when he made the final swipe to get the ball moving out of Morris's hands. That would be the point of last contact, and thus ball to ISU. IMHO, of course.
But for those who think that it would have decided the game, consider what the situation would have become. Still have 7.7 seconds, and OSU with the ball out of bounds at the end line with ISU up 3. Fixed point to throw the ball in, so the inbounder would be stuck. ISU could bring in SY to guard the person throwing the ball in, and we still could foul with, say, 3 seconds left before a shot goes off. Lots of ways that we win this one.
Was nice to get one last assist from Monte to Matty-Ice though.
Passed that, I think the real touching moment was when he made the final swipe to get the ball moving out of Morris's hands. That would be the point of last contact, and thus ball to ISU. IMHO, of course.
But for those who think that it would have decided the game, consider what the situation would have become. Still have 7.7 seconds, and OSU with the ball out of bounds at the end line with ISU up 3. Fixed point to throw the ball in, so the inbounder would be stuck. ISU could bring in SY to guard the person throwing the ball in, and we still could foul with, say, 3 seconds left before a shot goes off. Lots of ways that we win this one.
Was nice to get one last assist from Monte to Matty-Ice though.
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Close call, may not have been the right one, and if it had gone the other way I would apoplectic, but I'll take it tonight.
On a bigger note though, did anyone else think the officiating was pretty damn awful tonight, on both sides? I haven't seen that poorly officiated of a game in a long time.
On a bigger note though, did anyone else think the officiating was pretty damn awful tonight, on both sides? I haven't seen that poorly officiated of a game in a long time.
Agreed. Thought it was bad both ways all night and surprised this one got overturned.
Evidently the replay at Hilton was better. Carroll hit the ball last, and he was out of bounds.
They went from not calling much to calling everything very quickly.
Atrocious. We couldn't get any calls in the 1st half, then it was like 7-1 Okie State in fouls until pretty late in the 2nd. Really inconsistent - no reward for getting fouled driving for layups, but it's OK to jump into a guy even though that is NOT supposed to be called. I don't agree with the Monte call at the end as their guy was clearly in bounds. I get "establishing," but to me, it's like in football with a "catch" now. Catches aren't catches anymore. We got the benefit of having instant replay to overturn something on a technicality. Hate winning that way.
Must have been. I was at the game and didn't even expect this to be brought up. I thought it was clear ISU ball.
Yeah, if we'd lost there would be a 100+ post thread on the awful officiating, guaranteed.
Yeah the replay at Hilton was clear that osu touched it last. I was actually surprised they took that long to overturn.
I was at the game, and the big screen gave a good look. The OSU guy touched it last. It was a good call.
I thought the replay at Hilton was pretty clear that Carrol swiped the ball out of bounds after Monte hit the ball back towards him.
I thought if nothing else the body language of the 2 players involved told you all you needed to know. Monte was IMMEDIATELY positive the OSU player last touched, while the OSU guy looked defensive with his hands up like he was guilty af.
