If true, it is akin to being recruited after signing. Not allowed - hope we block to the school that picked up how AAU coach.
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Aa a player you don't have a right to just leave any school especially in late May just because you feel like it..umm no..You sign that LOI and a school has every right to restrict where you can go.
Blocking a school for a slight competitive advantage seems every bit as petty as blocking a school for any other reason, like suspecting a school hired a coach just to woo a kid. Maybe more so.
Except we make personnel decisions based on his commitment.
Not a little over three months from the semester starting. Someone changing their minds that late shouldn't get a totally free pass or the NCAA should make them sit out like a transfer.
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I disagree. I understand what you are saying. However, when you sign that LOI schools stop recruiting that position. They pass on players they could have got. Then a kid calls right before he is supposed to come and cancels because a coach he knows is going to cal? Just like the real world. He needs to suffer some consequences to what he did. Just like in the NBA. You can't sign the contract then decide to go to another team
Absolutely! I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
If coaches can leave for other schools at any point, regardless of their contract (which they do), and coaches can encourage kids to transfer (which they do), you can't really restrict kids too much. They're 18 years old and often they make their college commitments when they're 17.
I assume most of you that are saying we shouldn't block any schools are also thinking it is unfair for Illinois State to block McIntosh for us, right? Or are you looking at grad transfers differently than incoming freshmen? Just curious.
I agree that while others do it, it probably isn't good publicity to block kids. But I sure as heck hope we get to find out the REAL reason for his decommiting and not just the generic 'an 18 year old changing his mind'. Can't believe how this happened immediately after the feature articles were written about him and how excited many were to see him. (Someone even claimed he'd start). Many of you are so good about saying "on to the next". Where I think its more of that 'nut cup' time than it was losing Juiston.
I agree that while others do it, it probably isn't good publicity to block kids. But I sure as heck hope we get to find out the REAL reason for his decommiting and not just the generic 'an 18 year old changing his mind'. Can't believe how this happened immediately after the feature articles were written about him and how excited many were to see him. (Someone even claimed he'd start). Many of you are so good about saying "on to the next". Where I think its more of that 'nut cup' time than it was losing Juiston.
Professional players are basically property, and play under a player's Union that sets rules, completely different.
Coaches know this is a risk with every recruit in any sport, especially the ones with early signing periods. We'll see more of this in football with the early signing period there now too. You just hope it doesn't happen with your recruits.
I am so sick of hearing this excuse as it relates to coaches. The NCAA has a mechanism in place that allows those players affected by their coach leaving to where they can transfer without having to sit out. People who make this argument also are underestimating the intelligence of 17 and 18 year olds and equating them to a 10 year old who had mom buy popcorn at a theater only to be upset because they actually wanted M&Ms halfway through the movie.
Even regarding the whole encouraging kids to transfer thing. If you weren't going to get playing time wouldn't you want a coach to tell you that and help the kid find a better fit? I would love that luxury if during my annual review my boss was clear with me that I don't have upward momentum in the company. Then I can take that as a queue to better my life and find a better fit.
This wreaks of the same mentality that plagues youth sports where every kid needs to play all positions and everyone gets ice cream and participation ribbons and we cannot keep score.
I wouldn't take a casual attitude about his wanting out. There is a significant investment in time and money getting an LOI signed. That can't just be discounted. Besides the ramifications of how we change our targeting after he signed, as mentioned.
On the other side, which is the worst IMO, you have AAU coaches hired on the come for promising players they can drag with them. These schools can pay these coaches whatever they want with the expectation of delivering recruits. That money can trickle down. The NCAA has to close this relationship. Especially in the case of guardians/fathers or family members being hired as assistants. That money can be directly funneled to the athlete. It's nothing more than pay for play. How is that not intuitive?
On the other side, which is the worst IMO, you have AAU coaches hired on the come for promising players they can drag with them. These schools can pay these coaches whatever they want with the expectation of delivering recruits. That money can trickle down. The NCAA has to close this relationship. Especially in the case of guardians/fathers or family members being hired as assistants. That money can be directly funneled to the athlete. It's nothing more than pay for play. How is that not intuitive?
Nothing to see here, we might as well move on. He'll end up at Cal as a backup and will never be heard from again since 3/4 of the country is asleep when they play.
Or he'll end up playing in front of a few hundred friends, family, and cheerleaders since nobody cares about basketball in Texas.
If I'm Prohm I take a hard stance on this one, ridiculous to invest in a kid then he bails this late.
Or he'll end up playing in front of a few hundred friends, family, and cheerleaders since nobody cares about basketball in Texas.
If I'm Prohm I take a hard stance on this one, ridiculous to invest in a kid then he bails this late.
But remember that even though people are saying blocking it really isn't blocking. It just means that he would have to sit out a redshirt year rather than being eligible right away. He committed and later signed an LOI. There has to be some consequences to breaking that contract. Having to sit out a redshirt year doesn't seem like an overly harsh response.
