Hurricane Harvey

BoxsterCy

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If they get 30" of rain, it will be a disaster.

Could still be bad. Cue up Stevie Ray Vaughan for Texas flooding and anybodies version of Levee Breaks for Mississippi River flooding. Old blues standards show us this ain't no new phenomena.

Well there's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down
And I've been tryin' to call my baby
Lord and I can't get a single sound
 

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Downgraded already. Maybe I'm weird but unless it's another Katrina that destroys a city I think it's overhyped.

Maybe, but the national weather service has been very clear that the issue with this storm was going to be the rain amounts and the fact that the storm wasn't going to move much over the next few days. Also, almost all hurricanes get downgraded to a 1 after they make landfall. That's normal and expected.
 

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Downgraded already. Maybe I'm weird but unless it's another Katrina that destroys a city I think it's overhyped.
So you are gonna compare a major cat 5 hurricane with winds that peaked around 175 mph that happened to go over a city that is below sea level to another hurricane that was a cat 4 with peak winds around 130 mph? That hardly isn't fair to compare any storm to Katrina- it was the costliest hurricane ever and the 5th deadly hurricane ever in the US.
It's not overhyped- people listened to the warnings ahead of the storm and evacuated. The loss of life is zero which I believe would be the gold standard of a storm this size NOT being overhyped.
 
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Not looking good for fellow Cyclones (or anyone else, for that matter) in the path of this monster. Thoughts & prayers are with anyone affected.

Post pics, stories, etc. here. Stay safe everyone!
I have family that has a house less than a 1000m from the shore in Port Arkansas ( where it hit) saw pictures and while the roads and other are in bad shape the berms and the construction requirements of homes seemed to hold up. Very encouraged. Now the rain could lead to flooding but round 1 is won.
 

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So you are gonna compare a major cat 5 hurricane with winds that peaked around 175 mph that happened to go over a city that is below sea level to another hurricane that was a cat 4 with peak winds around 130 mph? That hardly isn't fair to compare any storm to Katrina- it was the costliest hurricane ever and the 5th deadly hurricane ever in the US.
It's not overhyped- people listened to the warnings ahead of the storm and evacuated. The loss of life is zero which I believe would be the gold standard of a storm this size NOT being overhyped.
They have been acting like it would be comparable is the problem.
That is ridiculous and wrong. The hype saves lives. If you don't want to hear about it - change the channel.
Honestly short term it probably does but long term it hurts. If after so many times of overhyped storms your actually going to get one that needs the hype then people aren't going to take it as seriously. It is important to be as accurate as possible. While it is good to error on the side of caution we have to worry about going to far.
 

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They have been acting like it would be comparable is the problem.

Honestly short term it probably does but long term it hurts. If after so many times of overhyped storms your actually going to get one that needs the hype then people aren't going to take it as seriously. It is important to be as accurate as possible. While it is good to error on the side of caution we have to worry about going to far.

I mean - that's a legit concern if it petered out or veered off and did nothing. But it's the first Cat 4 storm to hit Texas since 1961, destroying several small towns that were hit with 120+mph winds. AND it will likely be the WORST flooding event in Texas history, if not US history. Houston is much bigger that NOLA and is very susceptible to flooding - and is forecasted to get 30+ inches of rain. Calling it "overhyped" when the worst effects haven't happened yet is irresponsible and ridiculous.

Body count can't be how you judge hype level - zero dead is always what needs to be expected, but it doesn't mean the storm was "over hyped", it means it was properly prepared for.
 

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I have family that has a house less than a 1000m from the shore in Port Arkansas ( where it hit) saw pictures and while the roads and other are in bad shape the berms and the construction requirements of homes seemed to hold up. Very encouraged. Now the rain could lead to flooding but round 1 is won.

IIRC, Katrina didn't look like the disaster it was immediately as well. Texas is probably a lot more prepared for it though.
 

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IIRC, Katrina didn't look like the disaster it was immediately as well. Texas is probably a lot more prepared for it though.
Yes, the news reported that NOLA was spared the worst of it after Katrina made landfall, only to have Lake Ponchartrain later swell and overtake the levees and cause massive flooding as the pumps couldn't keep up. I remember the live news shots during that storm as they prematurely claimed victory.
 
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Not too bad yet in Houston. Steady ran started yesterday evening but no torrental downpours yet. The major bayous have flooded but are still below street level. Not actually raining atm.
 

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So you are gonna compare a major cat 5 hurricane with winds that peaked around 175 mph that happened to go over a city that is below sea level to another hurricane that was a cat 4 with peak winds around 130 mph? That hardly isn't fair to compare any storm to Katrina- it was the costliest hurricane ever and the 5th deadly hurricane ever in the US.
It's not overhyped- people listened to the warnings ahead of the storm and evacuated. The loss of life is zero which I believe would be the gold standard of a storm this size NOT being overhyped.

Um, wasn't Katrina a category 3 storm? It wasn't a category 5, unless I'm misreading your post. You do correctly point out the major difference in the storms however. New Orleans sits over a foot below sea level. A foot...below. By comparison, the average elevation relative to sea level for the land impacted by Harvey is around 10 feet above.

Harvey is a stronger storm than Katrina was. Location is what made Katrina.
 

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Um, wasn't Katrina a category 3 storm? It wasn't a category 5, unless I'm misreading your post. You do correctly point out the major difference in the storms however. New Orleans sits over a foot below sea level. A foot...below. By comparison, the average elevation relative to sea level for the land impacted by Harvey is around 10 feet above.

Harvey is a stronger storm than Katrina was. Location is what made Katrina.

And the fact that there was a ton of morons out partying and drinking on bourbon street thinking it'd be a fun time.
 

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This storm was stronger than Katrina when it came on shore. Major difference is this one hit a relatively low population area that isn't below sea level.
 
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I mean - that's a legit concern if it petered out or veered off and did nothing. But it's the first Cat 4 storm to hit Texas since 1961, destroying several small towns that were hit with 120+mph winds. AND it will likely be the WORST flooding event in Texas history, if not US history. Houston is much bigger that NOLA and is very susceptible to flooding - and is forecasted to get 30+ inches of rain. Calling it "overhyped" when the worst effects haven't happened yet is irresponsible and ridiculous.

Body count can't be how you judge hype level - zero dead is always what needs to be expected, but it doesn't mean the storm was "over hyped", it means it was properly prepared for.
I guess we don't know about this one yet but I think we've had quite a few the last few years that haven't lived up to the hype. I don't really follow hurricanes that much I was more speaking from a snow storm point of view.
 

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Not at all. This was hyped up as biggest storm in 15 years. One mayor even told residents to write their SSN on their arm to identify bodies when they die. Using those metrics this was overhyped.
Seems a bit premature to say when the storm is still active for the next several days from the sound of it.