What’s the deal with this story? (Missing UI student Mollie Tibbetts)

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I don’t really think speculation on here is bad (except for the boyfriend thing). Mostly everything else that’s been said is completely reasonable in my opinion
 

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I'm not at all a pro-gun person, but if if had daughters of this age I'd have them carrying at all times these days. Too many terrible people out there.

I am not Pro-gun either and I see your point but there are other options IMO. Most female realtors carry pepper spray with them partially for this reason.
 

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I am not Pro-gun either and I see your point but there are other options IMO. Most female realtors carry pepper spray with them partially for this reason.
I have a 17 y.o. daughter who is a runner. No more running after dark and no more running on trails. Only populated areas. Her bf usually follows on his bike now too.
 

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I'm not at all a pro-gun person, but if if had daughters of this age I'd have them carrying at all times these days. Too many terrible people out there.

why? I guarantee she could be snuck up on and put in a hold before she even thought to grab the gun. Even if she did try to grab the gun most likely the guy would be able to out muscle her for it.

My daughter has a stun gun, mace and this key chain with two sharp pokey things on it. Just yesterday she was walking somewhere in LA (middle of the afternoon) with earphones in listening to music (dumb on her part), walked by some guy putting gas in his dump truck who was staring at her, yelled something at her and then followed her for a bit.
 
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My thoughts are with her and her family.

Sounds like there was a Snapchat late that evening (so after her run....unless she went for another AM run) and the outfit she would have worn to work is not found.

What's intriguing to me (for all newer cases like this) is the data footprint. The one article mentions supeonas to social media providers/Google....also mentions her Fitbit. Obviously that takes time (and in missing people cases that isn't good...more time)...but you just think of all the info we have out there and how three could be clues (say a creep sent a weird fb message, liked a bunch of photos, etc). I know I'm weirded out when my phone tells me where I went in a day, Google may have those types of data points)

Yes, if there is a laptop/tablet that is also signed in to Google, which there likely is given her age and college student, they can get real-time and timestamped history immediately via the google maps location history - https://www.google.com/maps/timeline.

Even if phone is off it would show location until off, or "frequent routes", etc.

I just hope this part doesn't get delayed unnecessarily by rural sheriff's office to DCI transition. Hopefully the local police/sheriffs know know this stuff - I would assume it is their basic playbook - but maybe don't given smaller likely older staff, etc. I emailed the county sheriff "tip line" about it "just in case" - I've never done something like that before - but even before the subpoena it's amazing the trail we leave of ourselves if we know where to look.
 
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Crap, I thought they already were. It's been five days since she went missing. Maybe I just watch too much TV, but isn't there like a critical time frame where the victim is most likely to be found?

If the FBI is just now digging into the computer forensics as the article says they are it might be too little too late.

Either way, if the FBI is involved the chances of finding her just increased by quite a bit.
 

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Crap, I thought they already were. It's been five days since she went missing. Maybe I just watch too much TV, but isn't there like a critical time frame where the victim is most likely to be found?

If the FBI is just now digging into the computer forensics as the article says they are it might be too little too late.
It was reported on Saturday that they were looking into her “digital footprint”. My guess is that they have already checked all of the basic things that we know about (social media, google, etc). With the FBI, there is probably technology that we have never even heard of that can be utilized.
 

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Crap, I thought they already were. It's been five days since she went missing. Maybe I just watch too much TV, but isn't there like a critical time frame where the victim is most likely to be found?

If the FBI is just now digging into the computer forensics as the article says they are it might be too little too late.
I believe this is 48 hours
 
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Death, Kidnapped, Sex Trafficking, or, best case scenario, dissociative identity disorder.

I've had a two separate woman friends in the Harlan/Avoca area who've been pulled over just off the interstate (both for speeding) but while the officer was getting their information, the officer asked both of them if they were victims of sex trafficking because there has been a high volume of incidents in the area.

Couple things that stick out as odd to me

- She wasn't missing for that long before she was reported missing

- They announced foul play isn't being ruled out almost the same time they told the public she was missing
The Harlan/Avoca and Walnut stops would fit similar criteria to Brooklyn. I could see it.
 

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Crap, I thought they already were. It's been five days since she went missing. Maybe I just watch too much TV, but isn't there like a critical time frame where the victim is most likely to be found?

If the FBI is just now digging into the computer forensics as the article says they are it might be too little too late.
I think the first hand-off was to the Iowa DCI.
 

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This is so sad and concerning and prayers sent she is found safe and sound. In light of some of the comments on various personal protection items, for those who would like another option for non-lethal self-defense I wanted to make sure all saw that there had been a significant change in Iowa law that now allows another option besides pepper spray.

As the father of 2 great adult young women who can take care of themselves, I still want to make sure they have every tool available to accomplish this.

As of July 1, it is legal to carry a non-projectile taser in Iowa without a concealed carry permit (which was required prior but could never be obtained as it would never be issued for this item as catch 22 in Iowa law.)

Again, like anything else of this nature if used in an assault it would be a deadly weapon (just like a pocket knife, bat, etc), but if over 18, it now legal to carry (concealed or open) and it would provide a shocking last defense.

There are of course restrictions in some areas it can be carried but it is very inexpensive personal protection item There are many options out there but good options can be found on Amazon for only $11!

A special thanks to Senator Charles Schneider and Representative Chris Hagenow for their support and leadership on passing this bill this past session and I will note it was supported by both parties in almost a unanimous vote.

Not sure it would have changed anything, but it is just another tool for protection.
Amazon product
 

CyAg

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If someone attacked my daughter wife spouse girlfriend Id want the attacker dead, not pepper sprayed or stunned. Of course all could be turned against the victim if not properly trained is the bad part .
Pretty sure most would feel the same! I just wanted to highlight the change.
 

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why? I guarantee she could be snuck up on and put in a hold before she even thought to grab the gun. Even if she did try to grab the gun most likely the guy would be able to out muscle her for it.

My daughter has a stun gun, mace and this key chain with two sharp pokey things on it. Just yesterday she was walking somewhere in LA (middle of the afternoon) with earphones in listening to music (dumb on her part), walked by some guy putting gas in his dump truck who was staring at her, yelled something at her and then followed her for a bit.

Let me just re-arrange your statement here a little bit . . .

My daughter has a stun gun, mace and this key chain with two sharp pokey things on it . . .

Why? I guarantee she could be snuck up on and put in a hold before she even thought to grab the gun. Even if she did try to grab the gun most likely the guy would be able to out muscle her for it.
 

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why? I guarantee she could be snuck up on and put in a hold before she even thought to grab the gun. Even if she did try to grab the gun most likely the guy would be able to out muscle her for it.

My daughter has a stun gun, mace and this key chain with two sharp pokey things on it. Just yesterday she was walking somewhere in LA (middle of the afternoon) with earphones in listening to music (dumb on her part), walked by some guy putting gas in his dump truck who was staring at her, yelled something at her and then followed her for a bit.

Why carry the stun gun, mace, and pokey things? I gauruntee she’s could be snuck up on and put in a hold before she even thought to grab these.
 

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The Harlan/Avoca and Walnut stops would fit similar criteria to Brooklyn. I could see it.

Was just by there yesterday. Thinking about this case....creepy.
 
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