OU postgame thread

[Doc]

I think what they like to do is give guys a series off rather than a play off, and that was just Croney’s series. I kind of get the impression that Campbell’s a bit of a control freak and doesn’t give his RB coach the ability to make those substitution calls.

 

[FredCyclone]

I feel good about this years team. They will be competitive in all 10 games left , there may be a 11th

 

[cyclones500]

Although I think it was a correct review-overturn, if ISU could've gotten that fumble call, it would've been a boost. Really could've used a turnover there.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Hard to know what Assalley's range is on FGs but like you say, I don't think it's the worst idea to go for it instead of kick/punt in the fringe area between 30 and 40 yard line.

Also, Assalley is 3 for 3 on FGs and 3 for 3 on PATs. Small sample size, but I'll take those percentages.

Punting is another matter ...

... What was everyone's opinion of doing the short kickoffs to force fair catches? Was there a wind situation I didn't understand (Francis seems capable of getting touchbacks).

I'd like Campbell to address that during postgame. I have two guesses, though: 1. their returner is good enough that they didn't want to risk him taking something out of the endzone and gashing the special teams; 2. they were trying to put pressure on front line guys to handle the kickoff and potentially force a mistake/turnover on the kickoff. Normally those guys are blocking, not fielding kickoffs.

 

[Doc]

Hard to know what Assalley's range is on FGs but like you say, I don't think it's the worst idea to go for it instead of kick/punt in the fringe area between 30 and 40 yard line.

Also, Assalley is 3 for 3 on FGs and 3 for 3 on PATs. Small sample size, but I'll take those percentages.

Punting is another matter ...

... What was everyone's opinion of doing the short kickoffs to force fair catches? Was there a wind situation I didn't understand (Francis seems capable of getting touchbacks).

That was weird. The one time we did kick it deep after that it only made it to the 5. I think we were just giving an up man a chance to drop one. That was a team that was really good and we needed them to **** up to win after that bad first quarter.

 

[CloneIce]

Lots of improvement from last week. Still plenty to clean up but overall I’m pretty happy with that effort.

No more wildcat! And you gotta have Montgomery in there on that key 3rd and 1.

 

[cyclones500]

I think what they like to do is give guys a series off rather than a play off, and that was just Croney’s series. I kind of get the impression that Campbell’s a bit of a control freak and doesn’t give his RB coach the ability to make those substitution calls.

This could be. I like mixing in the other backs to lift some of the wear-and-tear on Montgomery, plus in big picture it could add additional dynamic. Croney and Kene can get some real time and play to different strengths. In the case of that 3-and-1, it seems like that was a time to let DM bulldoze.

 

[chuckd4735]

Hard to know what Assalley's range is on FGs but like you say, I don't think it's the worst idea to go for it instead of kick/punt in the fringe area between 30 and 40 yard line.

Also, Assalley is 3 for 3 on FGs and 3 for 3 on PATs. Small sample size, but I'll take those percentages.

Punting is another matter ...

... What was everyone's opinion of doing the short kickoffs to force fair catches? Was there a wind situation I didn't understand (Francis seems capable of getting touchbacks).

Yeah I'd like to get a good idea of his range. Thought it was odd going for it on 4th in the 1st series of the game rather than taking the points with a 40-45 yard attempt, but maybe they don't trust him yet?

 

[CYEATHAWK]

I'd like Campbell to address that during postgame. I have two guesses, though: 1. their returner is good enough that they didn't want to risk him taking something out of the endzone and gashing the special teams; 2. they were trying to put pressure on front line guys to handle the kickoff and potentially force a mistake/turnover on the kickoff. Normally those guys are blocking, not fielding kickoffs.

The school my daughters go to had this exact thing happen. Don't kick to them because of the potential for a return. So after the first one was returned, next KO decided to just kick out of bounds. Other coach refused penalty. Did it again...again refused. Okay, let's try it and.............90 yards later. After that they did exactly what CMC did. Straight up in air and short, made other guys less capable handle the ball. It worked. So my guess is that's exactly what CMC was doing.

 

[67CY]

I think what they like to do is give guys a series off rather than a play off, and that was just Croney’s series. I kind of get the impression that Campbell’s a bit of a control freak and doesn’t give his RB coach the ability to make those substitution calls.

That probably is correct, but in that situation, one of the best backs in the country needs to be the one with the ball and the coaches should make that adjustment

 

[cyclones500]

Yeah I'd like to get a good idea of his range. Thought it was odd going for it on 4th in the 1st series of the game rather than taking the points with a 40-45 yard attempt, but maybe they don't trust him yet?

I wondered about that decision. I suppose at some point you have to throw your PK into it and develop the confidence. But maybe the choice was to show we weren't just going to settle for field position all day and "meant business" on offense.

(I didn't mind the decision at the time.)

 

[FinalFourCy]

I'm guessing the tone in this thread is going to be quite a bit different from last week.

Yes, we lost. But that was one hell of an effort.

I think last week's reports of ISU's demise were greatly exaggerated.

It confirmed the impact of the cancellation.

We don’t stay within 3 tds if OU is Game 1 with last week’s game plan with Kempt imo. And going with Newell this week will pay dividends in future games.

It’s not a bad feeling knowing that the difference today was OU having Murray play like a 1st team AA

 

[cyclonedave25]

I have nothing to add since everything has already been said but man, I am excited to see Nwangwu in the open field. I think he had one run that went for a first down and he looked really explosive. A quick cut and right up field.

 

[chuckd4735]

I wondered about that decision. I suppose at some point you have to throw your PK into it and develop the confidence. But maybe the choice was to show we weren't just going to settle for field position all day and "meant business" on offense.

(I didn't mind the decision at the time.)

Yeah I didn't mind the decision, but in hindsight, those 3 points could of helped.

 

[cyclones500]

I feel like I'm nitpicking some of the small negative details.

May I repeat how thrilling those catch-and-run TDs by Butler were?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Defense was poor. I understand OU's offense is great but that was a subpar performance. But, they buckled down and performed well in the 4th quarter. Unfortinately the offense wasn't able to capitalize. There was a couple of possession stretch where OU didn't get any points but ISU was only able to come away with 3. That was the pivotal point in the game.

Oline was no good (no holes to rush through, RBs have to do all the work). Zeb was excellent. He should be starter from here on out.

Some of the play calling was questionable. That wildcat package was awful. Not running Montgomery on 3rd and 1 was a head scratcher.

Offense is going to have to come through in the 4th quarter this year if a bowl game is in the future.

Offensive line was much improved (and quite a bit better than “no good”). They certainly weren’t dominant, but they weren’t dominated either. Still a work in progress, but today was a couple steps in the right direction.

 

[jdoggivjc]

ISU getting some respect from the rest of the conference for the effort against OU today.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/thebig12smackroom/

 

[Doc]

I have nothing to add since everything has already been said but man, I am excited to see Nwangwu in the open field. I think he had one run that went for a first down and he looked really explosive. A quick cut and right up field.

He looks like real RB out there, not just a speed guy. I don’t know if it’s a part of our offense, but would like to see him run a wheel route behind a Hakeem deep route. Maybe we don’t have the OL to give it enough time.

 

[madguy30]

Offensive play calling was not a problem today. Looks like we'll have another QB battle this year, except both of them are pretty good.

You think not making it a priority to go to your tall capable wide receivers and putting your QB out as a decoy in the red zone isn't a problem?

Overall they were better at getting the ball to playmakers but this staff overthinks things when it gets tight.

 

[SpokaneCY]

ESPN saying KK is definitely out for Akron as well. Like that Zeb has a full game film and will be getting starters reps this week...