That and a Delorean and he would be golden. It’s infinitely easier to look intelligent after the fact.
THE SUNDAY AFTER: TCU
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There would be nothing boring about ISU if they were running off tackle leads from an I-formation over and over again if it resulted in sustainable drives and 30 points/game and were 3-1 right now or 4-0.
They don't have a strength so teams can play better to their weaknesses.
Did you not post “The only thing he gained experience in as an OC was talking to the media”?
Frustration isn’t the same as surprised, and knowing the dynamics from the get go doesn’t prevent frustration. I’m certain CMC was transparent and honest.
I mean whether he was just an OL coach or the OC if he's in the box his responsibilities were the same so yeah he met with the media often which he wouldn't do if he wasn't the OC. That's what I was saying
Nice work Jay.
Play-calling, design and adjustments have all been areas of extreme weakness.
Hopefully this is resolved in the next few games but if not we need to find ourselves an OC and play-caller in the offseason.
I totally understand having doubts about the offensive line or a young quarterback being able to execute certain things but that doesn't mean you can't at least make some adjustments or attempt different looks here and there.
We are not only wasting one of our best defenses ever, we are also wasting Montgomery and to a lesser extent Butler because we don't play to their strengths. Asking Montgomery to run 15 inside zones a game where he's having to break at least a tackle as he is handed the ball instead of getting him out into space more often isn't going to help him.
We have a 10 win defense with a 3 win offense.
Play-calling, design and adjustments have all been areas of extreme weakness.
Hopefully this is resolved in the next few games but if not we need to find ourselves an OC and play-caller in the offseason.
I totally understand having doubts about the offensive line or a young quarterback being able to execute certain things but that doesn't mean you can't at least make some adjustments or attempt different looks here and there.
We are not only wasting one of our best defenses ever, we are also wasting Montgomery and to a lesser extent Butler because we don't play to their strengths. Asking Montgomery to run 15 inside zones a game where he's having to break at least a tackle as he is handed the ball instead of getting him out into space more often isn't going to help him.
We have a 10 win defense with a 3 win offense.
This is going to be posted every week isn't it?
I could buy being conservative against Akron at home. But TCU on the road???
Sign me up for a job where I can get OC pay without all the job duties.
I didn't take the time to read through all the responses so if I'm repeating other posts, sorry, but I felt that Zeb just had an off day passing wise. He under threw several passes that normally Butler would have went up and grabbed. I think with a young QB you're going to have inconsistency. He's performed pretty well up to this point. It's disappointing to be this close and lose. I certainly felt it but I'm not ready to give up on the guy just yet. Our O-line didn't do us any favors in the running game either other than the scoring drive and like the article said, it seems like other teams are able to read what we are doing as they seem to always be in the right place. Maybe we'll have one of our "good" games this week in Stillwater. Go Clones!
Yes, Jay always has good, insightful analysis that usually seems right on point. You would think the current coaching staff has the same insights? Or maybe not, I don't know. Armchair QB hindsight like me is always 20/20, but Jay on the other hand seems to know what he is talking about, and studies this stuff.
Maybe CF should have a way to send his (Jay's) analysis to the coaching staff each week.
With same late game situation it was interesting see the first play call from Ohio St. vs. Ped St. with the ball on the four. I know OSU is a different team (OL, QB, etc.) but how many of us thought we might throw wide on first down? (Jay, we know your take!)
I watched the play several times. The safety blitz might have taken the pass away, but the guy that came straight up the middle was the first one to hit Zeb, and their was another guy in there too. I understand they were setting up the screen, but there was just not enough time to even do that on the play.
Sometimes things are as simple as they look. Capable, high achieving people over think stuff all the time.
Really need to figure stuff out this week. That last 30 seconds was as frustrating as anything. You have very little chance, but throwing the ball underneath on a crossing route is pretty much a guarantee to lose. Got to give yourself a chance man.
Right! CMC pushed out Manning for being unmotivated and lacking confidence.
It’s doubtful your desire to get paid more for doing less is a characteristic that CMC looks for in an assistant.
He left because he was too happy and comfortable being an OC in title only? Now this is truly laughable spin.
Right, he left to progress his career. I know it shocks you, since he knew the responsibilities coming in so how could he want more?
He clearly wasn’t content with where he was at. Playcalling would not have kept him, but for a young coach looking to move up, not having autonomy in the offense as an OC isn’t beneficial.
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Our offense isn't going to be fixed by the things he mentioned. Well, I mean it could be by coincidence if those things were done to get a desired reaction out of the defense. The point is that running from under center, running jet action, and having the QB keep the ball don't just fix it. An offense isn't just a collection of these things lumped together. It should be a system where a play leads to a desired reaction from the defense where the next play, or maybe even later on, can use that defensive reaction to open something else. This offense doesn't feel like it's trying to do that. If feels like we are just trying to out execute people, but at the end of the day, that's hard for all but about 1 team in the country to rely on. We certainly aren't in a position to do that. When's the last time we had someone running wide open because the defense screwed up mentally? Have we had one this year? Had we had guys running open through zones? It just feels like everything is so hard.
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Manning never found the points to beat Iowa and only beat TCU once with how many points again last year?
You play to WIN the game. This staff is obviously gun shy. Why on earth they started JGJ at Center against Iowa after practicing him at LT all fall showed us that.
