Hoiberg, as it turned-out, didn't like recruiting, didn't like pressing the flesh, etc. Plus, he always had NBA aspirations. That's the main difference. I think CMC likes that stuff and does not have NFL aspirations...
Purdy emergence increase odds of keeping CMC?
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I don't think it is as common as people think for successful coaches to leave non blue blood P5 schools. Just look around us. Fitzgerald at NW, Ferentz at Iowa, Pinkel at OSU, Snyder at KSU. Even Mangino back at KU, or McCarney and Rhoads had chances to bolt after a few good years. Lots of these guys have put together top 10 seasons and even made runs at national titles. It isn't hard at all to see CMC deciding to stay here.
This is where we as a fanbase get off track. How the hell do you know that "CMC (ugh) wants to be the guy that defines a program's success."? Maybe he wants to win multiple national championships and feels he can do it at Ohio State. We don't know what his ultimate motivation is.
I agree with you whole heartedly. This is by far the most talented team I've seen Iowa State have in a long time, and talent wise, they're better than most of the teams in the Big 12. This blanket statement bs about "doing more with less" just goes to show the national pundits haven't watched any ISU games or done any sort of research on them.
I know we have our cardinal and gold blinders on, but I wonder what the reaction of fan bases for ND/OSU would be if there were to become an opening and CMC was a front runner. Can't argue with what he is building here, but his current resume doesn't entirely stack up with what a fan base of those schools might expect. Have to think they want a guy that's been to national championships and won them before (like an Urban Meyer hire six years ago). I realize Tressel and Meyer have Ohio roots, but it just feels like they might care more about a big name than an up-and-comer originally from the area. Of course this all changes if the W column continues to grow larger and larger each year.
This has always been my view.. for at least the next 2/3 years.
A coach who has a record of 14-17 (could be .500 or better at end of year) shouldn't be a hot commodity to these blue bloods.
I get he is an "up and comer" but until he proves he can win consistently at Iowa State, I don't see these schools offering.
I'm not worried about him leaving. I think he's just getting started here.
Same argument for selling CMC as a hire for the Browns. He's a great coach, but can you sell Browns season tickets based on hiring away a college coach from Iowa State?
Who was the last NFL coach hired from college that had any success as a head coach in the NFL?
Bill O'Brien coached a few years at Penn State, but he was an NFL guy before that. Pete Carrol was in the NLF, then college, then back to the NFL.
Chip Kelly was the last one I can remember that went from college to the NFL. He had minor success and then imploded. Hell even Nick Saban flamed out in the NFL.
College guys get hired on as coordinators, but rarely do they hire a head coach straight out of college and give him the reigns of an NFL team. And I don't see Campbell leaving ISU to be an OC in the NFL for a few years before being a head coach.
The NFL is a completely different game than college football.
What the hell I know is this. He's the real deal never once heard an excuse come out of his mouth. When he says we have something special and he believes he can build a strong program here CMC has done nothing that makes be believe he's not genuine. If you can't see that then just keep rubbing your Cheezdick coins together and maybe the Bob Bosbby fairy will leave a quarter under your pillow. But I doubt it.
I'm not sure that many are questioning whether or not he is genuine. I believe that he believes he can build a strong program here, and agree that he is on his way to doing this. National champion level strong? Odds would say unlikely. Chances of a national championship at somewhere like OSU? Going to say more likely.
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In addition to a lot of successful coaches choosing to stay put at P5 schools, you see a lot of blue blood hires that are not existing P5 coaches moving up. In the B12, UT hired a mid major head coach and OU promoted from within. Since OSU is of interest, they hired Urban out of retirement and Tressel came from Youngstown State. Brian Kelly was at Cincy before ND. Weiss came to ND as an NFL coordinator.
Just because ISU lost a coach moving up the ladder to OSU before most of our posters were born doesn't mean that this is the likely outcome for anyone who wins here. When you look around the game today, that kind of move is more the exception than the rule.
I don't think you're crazy at all - I actually had the same thoughts.
Except Iowa State isn't a mid-level program. That would be a MAC or similar team. In a power conference every school has the ability to build a program. A lot of schools considered blue bloods, at one time were terrible and can become terrible again. cough cough Nebraska on both counts. The potential for a national program exists at Iowa State.
Stupid discussion by the OP. Campbell has given no indication he wants to go anywhere, Hoiberg was clear from the beginning ISU was a stepping stone and no amount of money would have kept him in Ames. If CMC leaves, I guess the asses who keep bringing it up can pat themselves on the back. A good problem to have, sort of like Ferentz was rumored for every NFL opening about 20 years ago.
CPR loved his upset specials but they fell flat on their face after big wins or at least didn't hold it up.
CMC has so far established depth and a culture of playing for one another while also competing for PT.
I actually think a knock from B1G blue bloods at least would be that he hasn't beaten Iowa.
So with that, let him keep Hokdom happy, keep the blue bloods away, and regularly beat ranked teams and go to bowls, haha.
