Tiger vs. Phil

[BCClone]

I think if you read the book that just came out about him found out what he grew up around and how big of a piece of **** his dad was, there's an odd respect for him even making it. People growing up in that environment don't make it, much less become the greatest of all time, especially in golf. Sean O'hair comes to mind. The guy was extremely ****** up by his dad and it affected him socially for almost his entire life.

I definitely respect his abilities. I also understand his upbringing is the reason he was the way he was. I have said that upbringing for the average upper lower class and up individual can be the reason up until middle life, especially after one or both parents pass. I'm mid 40s and said that issues I have now are my issues, not because my parents didn't do this or did do that. I'm at the age, that a person needs to understand that you are in control of your life and stop blaming others for your problems. It seems Tiger may have actually aged and grown to understand this and take the reigns of his life. Great for him.

 

[BCClone]

Yes he’s changed, I know that. But he was friends with several golfers. I mean one of his best friends was Mark O’Meara. He would have been fun to listen to back then, too. Just in a different way.

My statement was, Tiger (corrected for back in his prime because evidence points to him changing) would not be a fun one to mic up since he didn't have interaction with other golfers on the course.

Speaking of O'Meara, did you read about what was mentioned about him in the article?

 

[Cyclone.TV]

My statement was, Tiger (corrected for back in his prime because evidence points to him changing) would not be a fun one to mic up since he didn't have interaction with other golfers on the course.

Speaking of O'Meara, did you read about what was mentioned about him in the article?

I don’t know if they have a relationship anymore - if memory serves O’Meara was the one who set Tiger and his ex up, so not sure if they ever reconciled after that. Tiger was a **** to nearly everyone off the course for a long time until recently.

 

[BCClone]

I don’t know if they have a relationship anymore - if memory serves O’Meara was the one who set Tiger and his ex up, so not sure if they ever reconciled after that. Tiger was a **** to nearly everyone off the course for a long time until recently.

No that was Parnevik, the wild clothes dude. O'Meara and Tiger were close, Mark was said to be tigers closest friend, at least on the tour. Tiger was in town the day O'Meara was inducted into the Hall of Fame, and O'Meara invited him to come. Ends up Tiger blows it off and no shows.

 

[Cyclone.TV]

No that was Parnevik, the wild clothes dude. O'Meara and Tiger were close, Mark was said to be tigers closest friend, at least on the tour. Tiger was in town the day O'Meara was inducted into the Hall of Fame, and O'Meara invited him to come. Ends up Tiger blows it off and no shows.

Oh Jesper did that? What a weird dude.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I definitely respect his abilities. I also understand his upbringing is the reason he was the way he was. I have said that upbringing for the average upper lower class and up individual can be the reason up until middle life, especially after one or both parents pass. I'm mid 40s and said that issues I have now are my issues, not because my parents didn't do this or did do that. I'm at the age, that a person needs to understand that you are in control of your life and stop blaming others for your problems. It seems Tiger may have actually aged and grown to understand this and take the reigns of his life. Great for him.

I would agree and it doesn't excuse the ****** things he's done. I'm just saying that Earl Woods wasn't your typical poor parent. He simultaneously threw the weight of the world on a teenager and set the worst example in how to treat people, particularly wives. I would say he both made and broke his son. That almost never happens. In fact, I can't think of an athlete with that much parental pressure who ever even approached the actual success. It's not so much a defense as it is a case study in something truly remarkable.

I don't think this new Tiger is a guy recognizing what you're talking about. I think it's a guy who appreciates being able to be around other humans again and realized that winning golf tournaments isn't that big of a deal.

 

[jbindm]

http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...l-mickelson-pay-per-view-suggested-price-1999

Bump. PPV price has been set at $19.99. I think maybe they're overestimating the interest in this, but I guess we'll see.

 

[Clonefan32]

The no crowd thing is what bothers me. It will just be...weird.

 

[cyclonedave25]

I hope they have Feherty walking along them, also mic’d up, keeping the convo going.

 

[BigJCy]

I'm a golf fan but really don't have much interest in it.

Especially Thanksgiving weekend I'm watching football.

 

[Cyclone.TV]

I’ll watch it.

 

[jbindm]

I'm a golf fan but really don't have much interest in it.

Especially Thanksgiving weekend I'm watching football.

Or college basketball. Plenty of holiday tournaments going on. It's a pretty crowded sports schedule.

I dunno. I guess the novelty factor might convince people to pony up, but $19.99 seems kind of steep. They both strike me as lame trash talkers, so it's not like there'll be much interesting happening between swings. Just two guys walking and shooting the bull.

 

[BigJCy]

45 minute show on HBO tomorrow night (Tuesday) at 9 pm Central for those interested:

 

[Isualum13]

The date is fast approaching. Unlikely I will watch but they already have a $200,000 side bet for a birdie on hole 1. Thinking when they get to the first par 3 they'll throw a cool half million on closest to the pin.

 

[clonedude]

Golf is easily my favorite sport, but I'm not paying for this at all. Total scam.

9 million to the winner, but it's not coming from the other golfer. And both of these guys are going to make a ton of money off this, even the loser, so what is really on the line? Nothing.

Some of the side bets could be fun, but like I said, even if one of the two ends up on the losing side of all these side bets, they are still going to profit off this. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

It is good that charity will be getting quite a bit of $$ out of this too though. But that's not enough to make me watch. Both guys seem so fake in their interviews. Can't imagine the banter will be all that exciting.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Golf is easily my favorite sport, but I'm not paying for this at all. Total scam.

9 million to the winner, but it's not coming from the other golfer. And both of these guys are going to make a ton of money off this, even the loser, so what is really on the line? Nothing.

Some of the side bets could be fun, but like I said, even if one of the two ends up on the losing side of all these side bets, they are still going to profit off this. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

It is good that charity will be getting quite a bit of $$ out of this too though. But that's not enough to make me watch. Both guys seem so fake in their interviews. Can't imagine the banter will be all that exciting.

I can't imagine what you would be like to hang around. Have you ever looked at something positively.

 

[mdfizer]

I am personally kind of excited for this - something different for sure. Might end up being a little boring, but hopefully they have enough side bets and jabbing that keeps it fun.

And just an FYI - We will most likely be watching this in the RV lots Friday if any of you are hanging out and wanna check it out.

 

[clonedude]

I can't imagine what you would be like to hang around. Have you ever looked at something positively.

Yes, I positively do not want to pay to watch Tiger play Phil in a publicity stunt.

I'm positive about things that deserve to be positive about. Look at my posts in the MBB threads. I'm even VERY positive on the football team too. I'm just not interested in them playing this game against Drake, that's all. Lighten up. Geez.

 

[Clonefan32]

No Laying Up had a great podcast on this yesterday. Interviewed both Tiger and Phil. Their consensus was similar to mine. This could be really cool if it was done in a manner where you are truly getting an inside look at how a golf match is played. You pick up some of the banter. You pick up on the discussions with caddies. That stuff would be cool. But if this is a high production quality match with staged one line dad jokes from Phil it will suck. I think we will all know if it is worth it within about 10 minutes of them teeing off.

 

[Tre4ISU]

No Laying Up had a great podcast on this yesterday. Interviewed both Tiger and Phil. Their consensus was similar to mine. This could be really cool if it was done in a manner where you are truly getting an inside look at how a golf match is played. You pick up some of the banter. You pick up on the discussions with caddies. That stuff would be cool. But if this is a high production quality match with staged one line dad jokes from Phil it will suck. I think we will all know if it is worth it within about 10 minutes of them teeing off.

Yeah, this thing has never been about the golf match. It's about all of the other possibilities and quite honestly, it's about people yearning for a loose and fun Tiger Woods.