And Lavine is incredibly overpaid even in today's bloated contract NBA.
Hoiberg fired from the Bulls
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Agreed. Good work if you can find it.
My pride would heal fairly quickly with $7.5mil coming my way while I sit around in my boxers watching Netflix all day.
Wish he could have succeeded this go round. Really never stood a chance with that crap roster and current organization.
Straight up people don’t get basketball if they think Fred is a bad coach. The Bulls have had horrendous rosters since that first year and the first year was far from a Hoiberg style roster. The idea for the first year was to win a title by bringing out the offensive side of that defensive oriented roster. That didn’t work but that had more to do with the age of those guys. Then he went to the playoffs with a team who had no business making them and tanked last year.
With a competent front office Fred would be successful.
With a competent front office Fred would be successful.
If recruiting is getting "cleaned up" I could see him coming back to the NCAA. I think he probably wanted to coach at ISU but I don't think he liked living in Ames outside of basketball. I bet the guy couldn't go to any restaurant without getting hounded by people. That would get tired.
In case if anyone forgot, Fred is on the record about how he feels about recruiting in college:
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...a-bulls-iowa-state/1qk9n5wl1r98f1eo17jbs9mym0
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...a-bulls-iowa-state/1qk9n5wl1r98f1eo17jbs9mym0
We agree on the last part. I don’t think he liked living in Ames. No harm in that.
Agreed. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****. The roster construction there never made any sense.
Thanks for the reminder. We hadn’t been discussing that angle yet.
This. They no that fans are mad about how bad they are so they fire the coach, get a new one and hope that once everyone is healthy they improve some and save their own asses.
So he gets screwed on one player and then just gives up because life is not fair. Why not go and find another Monte or Georges and go on. I mean you win some you lose some. To base your coaching preference based on one recruit is so dumb, and to me Hoiberg doesn't seem dumb.
He left ISU to knowingly be a part of a **** show in Chicago where there is no way he could've thought that he would be competing for titles with those players and that leadership. Otherwise he is just that stupid. He wanted out of ISU for other reasons than recruiting and Bulls the dream job thing. It would be nice to know the real reason(s).
I don’t think there is anyway that Hoiberg goes to KU, but if he does, KU’s conference winning streak would end. He is a great offensive coach, but can’t coach defense.
And I personally would not trade Prohm for Hoiberg. I think Prohm is a better recruiter and coach.
And I personally would not trade Prohm for Hoiberg. I think Prohm is a better recruiter and coach.
Let's face it, more than half of NBA coaching gigs are dead end jobs. I'm still amazed the number of people who think the Bulls are a disaster of a franchise but the Timberwolves aren't. As a first time NBA coach, you have to take your chance. I fully think Fred knew this going in.
His tenure with the Bulls was a front office dumpster fire. If gar/pax are still in charge and Jabri is still a Bull, I am done with this team. Fred had his faults as a coach but what the **** did they think would happen this year? Best case scenario was maybe sneak in with the 8 seed in the weaker east, but even then what do you get from that? Lose in the first round have no shot at the draft lottery.
This and not to mention Vaughn was going to be a one and done right? So if Vaughn would have signed with ISU and come to Ames and left after one season Fred would have felt good about recruiting because he won a recruiting battle? I get that recruiting would be a tiresome industry...but I doubt that Fred was so upset about losing a single recruit that he swore off coaching college basketball as a result.
