Shayok Out tonight, Questionable for Sat

[GTO]

I heard that if you cut your pinky toe off you will fall over sideways. It is critical to balance.

I also know that isn't true, but I like to believe it anyways.

Pinky toe - the human body's kickstand.

 

[clone1990]

You let Lard have numerous strikes, and now you may start guys who were involved in a locker room fight

My David Banner persona towards Prohm is turning into a Jereseib,

Oh boy!

 

[jsb]

Pinky toe is the appendix of the foot.

Do we know what toe it is?

 

[FinalFourCy]

The bolded is correct on what the luck rating is. You don't get "lucky" on what your adjusted offensive or defensive efficiency numbers are though. He is wrong in that assertion.

Where did alarson assert our AdjO or AdjD is via getting “lucky”? Imo he asserted our poor KenPom ‘luck’ score is in part due to our true offensive quality/rating being lower than our KenPom/PPP/continuum based metrics. That’s a significantly different claim, and in essence boils down to an assertion of KenPom itself is not a sufficient measure of quality- that our offense isn’t necessarily top-10. Ken himself wouldagree with that.

There's a reason our 'luck' stat is down near the bottom. That's KP's way of saying 'yeah this metric may not be accurate for this team'

the "luck" stat isnt actually measuring "luck". Its "the metric is saying this, but the results are saying this". To me, a good reason for that difference could be that the team isnt as good as the KP thinks it is.

Im sorry, no team with the kind of droughts we see routinely in games of several minutes without any sort of scoring, is a top 10 offense. I know some people treat KP like its some sort of basketball deity, but its not perfect.

The opposite- us being overranked is creating a large difference between expected and results, giving us a very bad luck rating.

 

[Dingus]

What is your definition of talent? Making highlight reel plays? Ok...he's got that.

Is it playing sound, fundamental basketball in such a way that doesn't leave his team vulnerable when he is on the floor? If so, not so much then.

Lard is gifted athlete who right now struggles with some basic basketball things that cause problems for his team when he is on the floor.

Plus, we need more jump stops. And would a nice, crisp bounce pass kill ya?

 

[jsb]

Babb put up a 3 in this video. Doesn't mean he will play, but worth noting.

I didn't see Lindell in the video though

Lindell is on the trip. Lard posted some sort of social media video yesterday with him on it.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Randy Pete has a 4 hour chubby just thinking about this...

Has anyone checked in on him? Concerned that all of this might have actually caused him to stroke out.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Most of the players on this team are the ****. Like, quite talented. Unfortunately, basketball is a team sport.

Sometimes it’s easier when there’s a guy way better than everyone else like Monte, Georges, Royce, etc. Leads to fewer pissing contests.

I think it would have helped to develop things if Lindell hadn't been out from game 2 until January. We had developed a bit of an identity without him, and I think it took several games after his return for things to start clashing. I think this would have been sorted out by early conference season without missing those early games (or may not have been as hard, as we wouldn't have developed a separate hierarchy first).

 

[CascadeClone]

I guess I don't get the Wigginton selfishness comments. His shot selection and turnover are no worse that Shayock and THT. If its more of an attitude thing in practice, then I could see Jacobson's point of view, but no one here would know that.

I don't think that problem is Wigg. Or Shayok. Or THT.

Its that we have 3 volume scorers, and that's just too many for anything resembling "flow" in the offense. Should never have more than 2 on the court at once, and maybe even 2 is too many, IDK.

 

[jcyclonee]

Video?

NO!

 

[jcyclonee]

More entertaining than mine - I kicked a packed suitcase on the floor in the dark living room, the night before a big trip. Yay me??

That pretty much stinks.

 

[GTO]

I will say we’re damn lucky to have WVU tonight. Tech or KU would take us to the wood shed tonight.

Yeah, but taking someone to the woodshed in WV probably means something totally different...

 

[FinalFourCy]

1.) All KenPom's luck tells you, is that the actual results differ from the expected results based on your efficiency.

2.)If you have bad luck, that tells you your team is losing games that the metric would assume you win. If you have good luck, you are winning games the metric assumes you would lose. It does NOT rate the quality of offense or defense at all.

No one is saying it rates the quality of offense or defense.

To comprehend alarson’s post, you have to be willing to believe KenPom’s ratings are an estimation of some unknown and undefined truth. A generally very good one, but still an estimation and subject to “error”. Point #1 in your post can be a considered a measure of how off this estimation is from the “truth”. As in, the KenPom metric was wrong more than the team’s actual outcome was somehow “wrong”.

Perhaps you disagree with that notion, but stop claiming his contention was that the luck score rated the offense or defense. I’m not sure how you interpreted it that way.

 

[BoxsterCy]

How many FGA did he average at Oak Hill?

https://www.oakhillhoops.com/stats/...7&tab=team_instance_player_stats&tool=2107502

 

[CyKings]

I don't think that problem is Wigg. Or Shayok. Or THT.

Its that we have 3 volume scorers, and that's just too many for anything resembling "flow" in the offense. Should never have more than 2 on the court at once, and maybe even 2 is too many, IDK.

I respectfully disagree. In the NBA, it's always about the "big 3", those always tend to be the best teams, at least in the modern era.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

I've broken mine in every way I can find. As a martial artist, against a few elbows.
Broke one walking into a desk. WebMD told me there was a chance that one was cancer, but probably just broken.
The most recent was about a year ago doing a lap in the gym. Brushed a medicine ball someone left on the floor. That one looked sweet, with the bruising and discoloration. Thing of beauty.

Kinda like having a giant concord grape hanging off the side of your foot!

 

[GTO]

I've broken mine in every way I can find. As a martial artist, against a few elbows.
Broke one walking into a desk. WebMD told me there was a chance that one was cancer, but probably just broken.
The most recent was about a year ago doing a lap in the gym. Brushed a medicine ball someone left on the floor. That one looked sweet, with the bruising and discoloration. Thing of beauty.

 

[Cychl82]

Yeah, but taking someone to the woodshed in WV probably means something totally different...

I never get tired of making fun of WV especially if it includes bare feet jokes.

 

[Cat Stevens]

It is the difference between expected results and actual results. It is the result of winning in blowouts and losing close games, which would indicate that our record should be a little better than it is. Every metric rates ISU favorably. The fan base probably would as well without a couple of the close losses that realistically could have gone either way.

It’s more than that though

 

[Cat Stevens]

Because he's one of the best players on the team and one of the most talented post's in the conference? I mean...really? You think Talley should start over Lard? Too each their own I guess but that's just crazy.

Being a good citizen still matters. He would start under a lot of coaches that came before, but that doesn’t mean he has earned it in any way shape or form.