I'll split the difference and suggest that it is likely a bit of both.
Anyway, in the list of criticisms of Prohm, how he handled McKay in a Sweet 16 season is pretty far down my list.
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I'll split the difference and suggest that it is likely a bit of both.
Anyway, in the list of criticisms of Prohm, how he handled McKay in a Sweet 16 season is pretty far down my list.
I mean you work with my fellow millennials as students. I fully expect there is a headcase in every group of 15
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Which is why a huge part of a P5 coach is successfully managing the head cases of 18-22 year olds. Doesn’t seem to be a strength of Prohm’s, at least not enough to offset other deficiencies.
A loaded team that finished 5th in conference.
Just boiling the entire season down to 'sweet 16' is massively misleading on that seasons coaching performance. The tournament can be a crapshoot either way as we have certainly seen but had we actually performed to our talent level we could've had a better seed and increased our chances of going even farther than the sweet 16.
Anybody think Prohm finally starts Conditt Saturday? I understand he loves/respects his upperclassmen, but Conditt needs to be in there. If we’re gonna lose to teams like Florida A&M, we need him and Tyrese to play as much as possible.
I love Mike, but I think we have a large enough sample size this year to see him playing the 4 isn’t going to be a good lineup for us.
I love Mike, but I think we have a large enough sample size this year to see him playing the 4 isn’t going to be a good lineup for us.
I’m not sure what Prohm is good at?
I’m guessing they pick off a couple teams at home they shouldn’t but other than that I don’t see much hope for the rest of the year or next bc I am certain Haliburton is gone and there isn’t immediate help on the way. I also imagine that it will take a lot for Pollard to get rid of Prohm.
I’m guessing they pick off a couple teams at home they shouldn’t but other than that I don’t see much hope for the rest of the year or next bc I am certain Haliburton is gone and there isn’t immediate help on the way. I also imagine that it will take a lot for Pollard to get rid of Prohm.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the definition of "loaded" for that season.
Our starting lineup was very good, no doubt about that, but we had next to no bench that season, especially when Naz went out for the season with that hip issue. We were thin as thin can get.
That was also a loaded Big 12 that season; Kansas was a 1 seed, Oklahoma was a 2 who made it to the Final Four, and West Virginia was a 3. I would have loved to have seen what we could have done that season with a healthy Naz Long at our disposal.
Anyway, to each their own, but I'm personally not going to complain much about a Sweet 16 season, especially since we have a whole whopping 5 of those total in our basketball history, not counting our "Final Four" season back in the 1940's.
Burton was the 6th man on that years team in a sport where alot of teams get by playing 7 guys. Thats about all that needs to be said when you try to downplay that they were loaded.
Think about that for a minute, they had a guy who currently plays in the NBA as the 6th man.
Who cam in at semester and was a wild card when he got the ball. He was actually the type that you would have thought should be sat at half time and chewed out by Prohm.
Yeah, but when you make up your mind to hate the coach from Day One (as jers has more or less admitted to doing, even if he denies it), you don't have to be consistent in your criticisms.
Keep disagreeing all you want Jers. That's your right.
But you know what I write is true, and so does everyone else that pays attention to your shtick.
But you know what I write is true, and so does everyone else that pays attention to your shtick.
Lol, whatever you say. I blame 2015-16 on bad coaching, you can blame it on lack of depth, who knows which one of us is right, people will take my approach, people will take yours.
Heres my argument, Prohm has shown time and time again for 5 years now he likes playing only about 7 guys on average, last year you could argue he only went 6 deep even though that entire roster was stacked. So what makes you think 2015-16 would have been so much better if we had 8-9 guys? The last 2 or 3 would still be getting minimal minutes. You mean to tell me on a roster of 12 guys he inherited, only 6 were even worthy of being on the basketball floor at any time? Really? So they sucked so bad he couldnt even put them in for 3 or 4 minutes at a time to give the regulars a rest? Who are you going to cut down minutes on? Niang? Morris?
Fran somehow manages to throw walk-ons and the 10th and 11th guys on the roster in the game for meaningful minutes and they dont go from up 20 to down 20 in 5 minutes. Thats probably a reason you dont see guys leaving all the time in his program either.
Weve seen time and time again how overrated depth is. People kept saying for 3 years, "Just wait until we get depth", that finally happened last year and the results werent any different than the first 2 years when they had minimal depth.
The two bolded sections kind of cross each other out, don't ya think?
Im not out to prove what Fran is doing is right, Im just saying, this Chippewa guy wants all this depth, but yet we had a roster of 12 players that year just like any other year.
So hes blaming it on 5 or 6 guys on the roster sucking so bad they couldnt even give a couple of minutes of effort to get the starters a breather. Thats some really terrible coaching and/or roster building if you cant even put some guys in the game for a couple minutes for fear of blowing a huge lead that quickly.
Well, when you've decided to hate the coach from Day One, you don't have to be consistent or logical.
Following up on my last statement, I have a gut feeling Prohm has 5 or 6 players each year that are "his guys" that he can trust, so he spends the most amount of time coaching them and getting them ready for games, while the others dont really know where they fit into this program.
You saw prime examples of that last year with Lard, LW, and Talley. Lewis seems like he fits into that category also.
