Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[ISUTex]

This is true but doesn’t take away from the fact that we’re finding out the Coronavirus death rate is substantially lower than initially estimated.

Really liking what I'm hearing from these studies that are coming out though. The Stanford study (really low death rate), and the gov't study that indicates it may not do well this summer are encouraging. Yes, I know some of you will get pissed about this, slam my optimism, and squeeze a shot of sun block into your mouth as you run back into the broom closet, but that's ok. .

The only thing I'm worried about now is our economy collapsing. You think it's scary now?

 

[madguy30]

Really liking what I'm hearing from these studies that are coming out though. The Stanford study (really low death rate), and the gov't study that indicates it may not do well this summer are encouraging. Yes, I know some of you will get pissed about this, slam my optimism, and squeeze a shot of sun block into your mouth as you run back into the broom closet, but that's ok. .

The only thing I'm worried about now is our economy collapsing. You think it's scary now?

I think it's good news and hopefully it promotes the need, and accessibility of antibody tests along with diagnostics.

See my chart from before though that showed how fast the deaths climb compared to other popular things that people think are comparable. It's not the death percentage, it's how fast they're happening. That is also scary, kind of like the amount of cases in the meat plant.

I suppose if people want to compare it to car collisions, they'll also agree to get charged with homicide if they kill someone with Covid, since that happens if you kill someone with a car. It's all about personal responsibility.

 

[MartyFine]

Really liking what I'm hearing from these studies that are coming out though. The Stanford study (really low death rate), and the gov't study that indicates it may not do well this summer are encouraging. Yes, I know some of you will get pissed about this, slam my optimism, and squeeze a shot of sun block into your mouth as you run back into the broom closet, but that's ok. .

The only thing I'm worried about now is our economy collapsing. You think it's scary now?

All that matters are the criteria in this document...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

 

[madguy30]

All that matters are the criteria in this document...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

A whole bunch of people must think that 'this is what should happen before you can get out there' meant 'This is what's happening, get out there!'.

 

[CycloneVet]

that is an incredibly misleading comparison. The death rate for the flu is not based on serology testing - it’s based on diagnosed cases at a doctor. A huge percentage of people with the common flu don’t see the doctor or get diagnosed.

There is probably a huge percentage of Covid patients that don’t see a doctor and get diagnosed as well.

 

[jsb]

There is probably a huge percentage of Covid patients that don’t see a doctor and get diagnosed as well.

right. But that’s the point. Someone was trying to say covid death rate is low because of serology testing and it was pointed out that flu death rate would be even lower if they used serology testing—-which they do not.

 

[Die4Cy]

True morbidity rates and such won't be known for a long time, probably years, and as a practical matter nailing the number from a statistical standpoint is fairly irrelevant to managing the problem today.

The people who need direct medical intervention are going to show up and get it at the point of care, whether it's 10% , 1%, or .10% of the total number infected. Getting them life sustaining care when they show up is the primary issue with plenty of time to investigate the other stuff.

 

[madguy30]

right. But that’s the point. Someone was trying to say covid death rate is low because of serology testing and it was pointed out that flu death rate would be even lower if they used serology testing—-which they do not.

I'm not aware of roughly 35,000 people dying in 3-4 weeks with association to the flu.

But I've also never heard many complaining about the economic numbers of heart disease and car collisions either. Man could we save some cash if people acted accordingly vs. the risk of those situations. All they have to do is be responsible.

 

[madguy30]

True morbidity rates and such won't be known for a long time, probably years, and as a practical matter nailing the number from a statistical standpoint is fairly irrelevant to managing the problem today.

The people who need direct medical intervention are going to show up and get it at the point of care, whether it's 10% , 1%, or .10% of the total number infected. Getting them life sustaining care when they show up is the primary issue with plenty of time to investigate the other stuff.

Do you see opening up now impacting hospital/ICU numbers later to dangerous levels? And how much can we open up that we can respond in time to close up again? I suppose it will vary all over the place.

With one state going back...what do they do to get products shipped for their business, if there's breakouts in places that also tried to open up and bloomed?

Can't find it now but did see where a spot here in WI started shipping their beef to different locations to help them, but I'm not sure how sustainable that is.

 

[NEPatriotscy]

Several weeks ago, I made the statement that Iowa would have 5,000 confirmed cases by August. Some here were mocking me that I had no clue for making that statement. Well, I now think 5,000 was much too low. With a firm order by Reynolds to SIP and make sure you obey social distancing, we would be a lot better off now.

Testing is also extremely important. We can thank the narcissist at the White House for that along with showing no leadership and spreading constant lies and false claims.

 

[jsb]

389 cases.

Probably mostly meat plants, but I don't know the breakdown by county for the 389. Not ideal.

 

[isuno1fan]

389 new cases today.

In before ClonesTwenty1 has a coronary.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

389 new cases today.

In before ClonesTwenty1 has a coronary.

I think it’ll be more than me upset about this number. Let’s see what excuses the Governor has tomorrow.

 

[BCClone]

If memory serves me correctly Linn county with a large jump.

 

[jsb]

If memory serves me correctly Linn county with a large jump.

They used to make this number easy to find and I can't find it anymore.

If it is Linn County with the big jump, that is not great as I would expect Black Hawk county will have a big jump once they start testing the Tyson workers.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

Was there a major increase in testing with this number? I’ve heard no.

 

[CloneLawman]

They used to make this number easy to find and I can't find it anymore.

If it is Linn County with the big jump, that is not great as I would expect Black Hawk county will have a big jump once they start testing the Tyson workers.

Polk County vaulted into second place at 333 cases. Looks like the most tests have been given there as well.

EDIT: Merely an observation. I am no apologist for the numbers or for the Gov. This looks like incremental support for the models saying Iowa has a couple weeks to go before peaking.

 

[Doc]

Not sure if this has been posted yet - they tested 200 people on the streets in Chelsea Massachusetts, a really hard hit area, and found 30 percent had antibodies https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/17/business/nearly-third-200-blood-samples-taken-chelsea-show-exposure-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

Encouraging, I think.

 

[madguy30]

Several weeks ago, I made the statement that Iowa would have 5,000 confirmed cases by August. Some here were mocking me that I had no clue for making that statement. Well, I now think 5,000 was much too low. With a firm order by Reynolds to SIP and make sure you obey social distancing, we would be a lot better off now.

Testing is also extremely important. We can thank the narcissist at the White House for that along with showing no leadership and spreading constant lies and false claims.

Well at least things will have slowed down by August for cases. Essentially 3,000 in what, 6 weeks' time?

I wonder if other plants have started to get their **** together to take precautionary steps to keep their places running.

Probably not.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

Governor is going to have to extend the shutdown till end of May. Can’t even get close to opening up yet according to the federal guidelines.