I don't disagree at all with this. Ben deserved to win (unlike a handful of other winners). He just didn't deserve it more than Chrissy, in my opinion.
Survivor: Winners at War
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I don't disagree at all with this. Ben deserved to win (unlike a handful of other winners). He just didn't deserve it more than Chrissy, in my opinion.
Man, Survivor did the old school players dirty this year. I wish they would have brought in some old school twists.
If an old school player comes back, they better have an idol because they'll be voted out first.
Well they have essentially telegraphed who it is going to be. I won't say, but the edit is pretty clear.
The right 2 people were voted out last night. Knew it was only a matter of time for both Jeremy and Nick because the "big 3" of Tony, Sarah, and Ben had trust issues with them. Michele is getting annoying and needs to go home too. I think she played her disadvantage wrong, she should have played it against Tony because I think Tony is a lot more paranoid than Ben is but I guess the way the challenge went down even with the disadvantage Ben nearly won anyways so it worked out that way at least. That big 3 is who I want to see in the end. I want the jury to have to vote for a winner from 3 solid players that earned there way there and wasn't brought along as a goat like Michele or already got voted out of the game once and got back into it late from the edge. Even Denise was played well enough to deserve a shot at final 3 too I think but of the 5 currently left I would rank her 4th at the moment.
If Natalie doesn't win the next challenge to get back in the game with all those fire tokens she bought advantages with then this game just was never meant to be for her. I was trying to read into the edit some too and at one point I thought maybe it will be Amber because all of the sudden she goes from barely getting any screen time to a pretty decent chunk last night. At this point in the game I'm not sure that I like someone coming back into the game from the edge, especially with a chance they have an immunity idol too because we're down to 6 so all they have to do win 1 of the 1st 2 individual immunity challenges and that gets them to the final 4 and a shot at fire making challenge to get to the final 3. Plus that person has bonded with the jury this whole time which I think is a huge disadvantage to anyone that hasn't been to the edge. I would be putting votes on that person right away and at least flush out an idol if they have one to make them vulnerable at the next vote.
I think this is Tony's game to lose, the jury knows he has been running the show so unless he slips up and somehow gets blindsided or does something that rubs the jury wrong he probably wins this thing if he makes it to the end. I used to find Tony really annoying on past seasons but I really have changed my mind on him after how well he has played this season. I would rather have Sarah or Ben win as they are 2 of my all-time favorite players but I have a hard time making a case for them at the moment because nearly all their moves have been orchestrated with Tony. If one of them were able to blindside Tony before the final tribal I think that would be the move that would win them the game.
If Natalie doesn't win the next challenge to get back in the game with all those fire tokens she bought advantages with then this game just was never meant to be for her. I was trying to read into the edit some too and at one point I thought maybe it will be Amber because all of the sudden she goes from barely getting any screen time to a pretty decent chunk last night. At this point in the game I'm not sure that I like someone coming back into the game from the edge, especially with a chance they have an immunity idol too because we're down to 6 so all they have to do win 1 of the 1st 2 individual immunity challenges and that gets them to the final 4 and a shot at fire making challenge to get to the final 3. Plus that person has bonded with the jury this whole time which I think is a huge disadvantage to anyone that hasn't been to the edge. I would be putting votes on that person right away and at least flush out an idol if they have one to make them vulnerable at the next vote.
I think this is Tony's game to lose, the jury knows he has been running the show so unless he slips up and somehow gets blindsided or does something that rubs the jury wrong he probably wins this thing if he makes it to the end. I used to find Tony really annoying on past seasons but I really have changed my mind on him after how well he has played this season. I would rather have Sarah or Ben win as they are 2 of my all-time favorite players but I have a hard time making a case for them at the moment because nearly all their moves have been orchestrated with Tony. If one of them were able to blindside Tony before the final tribal I think that would be the move that would win them the game.
As for last night's episode, I thought it was a bit underwhelming. I also was not a fan of the half hour tease at the end of the episode. I'm guessing they showed the recap at the end so they could save time at the beginning of the finale.
As far as the actual game goes, it feels like Ben, Sarah, and Tony have the final 3 on lock. I'm not sure why Sarah thinks she'd win over Tony, but I do know that Sarah's social game is very strong. I don't think Ben would get a single vote from a 16 member jury which is pretty remarkable.
As far as the actual game goes, it feels like Ben, Sarah, and Tony have the final 3 on lock. I'm not sure why Sarah thinks she'd win over Tony, but I do know that Sarah's social game is very strong. I don't think Ben would get a single vote from a 16 member jury which is pretty remarkable.
I bet one of those three get knocked out. I think Tony will want to take whomever returns from exile. So I think it will be Sarah, tony, and the third person who comes from exile. I am guessing tony don’t believe the winners will vote for someone who has not played the whole game. Also think he thinks he can beat Sarah.
So what's everyone's predictions for the finale tonight?
I think this is Tony's game to lose at this point. If he makes the final tribal council vote I don't see how he doesn't win. Whoever might be able to blindside him before that would then likely be the favorite next. Sarah has played a good game but it's been mostly tied to Tony so don't know how she makes a case if she has to sit next to him at final tribal other than maybe she played a better social game? Ben has the same problem and his social game has been lacking. I don't think Michele has any shot at winning and Denise has played a good game too but not sure it has been enough to win. Wild card will be who comes back from extinction which the edits make it look like it could be Natalie. I don't think anyone who comes back from the edge this season deserves to win in a season like this because to not be voted out of the game once already in a season with all winners to me means you played the best game.
Some details about the finale here: https://ew.com/tv/survivor-winners-at-war-virtual-reunion-finale/ Really bummed that Covid ruined the live finale on what I feel has been the best season ever of Survivor. Also sounds like having a fall season of Survivor is in jeopardy right now too. I guess what I don't get is if you are going to have an isolated cast and crew filming why can't they just get everyone to Fiji and quarantine for at least 2 weeks then before filming starts test everyone? If the only interaction is with the cast and crew and no one has the virus then they should be safe to film the season if it's a closed set. Would probably mean no loved ones visit like they always have but I think a show like that where you already are filming in a remote location it's an ideal situation you can control the environment and keep everyone safe.
I think this is Tony's game to lose at this point. If he makes the final tribal council vote I don't see how he doesn't win. Whoever might be able to blindside him before that would then likely be the favorite next. Sarah has played a good game but it's been mostly tied to Tony so don't know how she makes a case if she has to sit next to him at final tribal other than maybe she played a better social game? Ben has the same problem and his social game has been lacking. I don't think Michele has any shot at winning and Denise has played a good game too but not sure it has been enough to win. Wild card will be who comes back from extinction which the edits make it look like it could be Natalie. I don't think anyone who comes back from the edge this season deserves to win in a season like this because to not be voted out of the game once already in a season with all winners to me means you played the best game.
Some details about the finale here: https://ew.com/tv/survivor-winners-at-war-virtual-reunion-finale/ Really bummed that Covid ruined the live finale on what I feel has been the best season ever of Survivor. Also sounds like having a fall season of Survivor is in jeopardy right now too. I guess what I don't get is if you are going to have an isolated cast and crew filming why can't they just get everyone to Fiji and quarantine for at least 2 weeks then before filming starts test everyone? If the only interaction is with the cast and crew and no one has the virus then they should be safe to film the season if it's a closed set. Would probably mean no loved ones visit like they always have but I think a show like that where you already are filming in a remote location it's an ideal situation you can control the environment and keep everyone safe.
The only way this season could possibly fail is if someone from Extinction wins. That would be the biggest let down in survivor history in my book .
Agree with everything here. Here are people's path to victory at this point IMO:
Tony makes the final 3 he wins.
Sarah makes final 3 without Tony she wins.
Denise wins if she somehow gets there without Sarah and Tony.
Don't think Michelle or Extinction person has a shot either way.
Not necessarily. You're seeing the game through a traditional game lens. The point of this season is Edge of Extinction. Heard a great interview with Chris Underwood and he has said that everyone on EOE told him they will not vote for him unless he absolutely crushes it, makes huge game moves, and proves he is a worthy winner. And he did just that (even though I liked Gavin's game better, Gavin alienated EOE folks IMO).
To me, Tony has played the best season by far. He's out smarted the best of the best. He's gone behind his ride or die's back and still gotten her to be lock step with him. The way he created a new voting block to take Sophie out behind Sarah's back cemented him as legend status in my book. Even if he doesn't win, you could still argue he's the best of all time.
Sarah has played the second best game and I hope she gets some votes reflecting that.
Ben's best move was aligning with Tony and Sarah and that's about it.
Michelle is going to be the classic third place goat but I still like her and she's exceeded my expectations.
Denise had the amazing Sandra move, but has seemed to rest on her laurels since.
Sarah has played the second best game and I hope she gets some votes reflecting that.
Ben's best move was aligning with Tony and Sarah and that's about it.
Michelle is going to be the classic third place goat but I still like her and she's exceeded my expectations.
Denise had the amazing Sandra move, but has seemed to rest on her laurels since.
Agree with this, except the bolded. What has Sarah done this game other than aligned with the right person? I think there will be people in the jury who won't think she's made enough moves unless she can pull something off during tonight's finale that garners attention.
In my book. It’s a fake victory if you get voted out and don’t go through all the game. Part of the game is to put yourself in position to not get voted out. What’s the point if you can go sit on an island the whole game and just enter the contest with 5 people left. It’s like running the last mile of a marathon and winning. While the others did 25 miles worth of work.
Agreed with most...if Tony is in the final three he wins in a landslide. I kind of hope he gets knocked out prior though to make things interesting.
I personally am rooting for Sarah but would be ok if Tony or Denise wins. I just think if Tony wins it will be a ho-hum albeit very deserved win.
I personally am rooting for Sarah but would be ok if Tony or Denise wins. I just think if Tony wins it will be a ho-hum albeit very deserved win.
The winner always comes down to what will the jury reward... "the backstab make it to the end no matter what player" (Tony) or the "mainly stay loyal the whole way and make it player" (Denise). This jury with smartly remove their feelings from the final vote and for that reason it will be Tony's if he gets there. As quickly as this game has changed vote to vote though, its damn tough to think who will even make the final three.
I think Tony has it pretty much locked up if he gets to the final 3. It seems like outside of Tony no one has played a super strong game, or at least not on the same level as him. Really hoping the obvious edge returnee doesn’t make it back from EoE and then wins it, becuase that would be a disappointing end imo.
If Tony gets voted out before final tribal she probably will be one of the reasons why. That is the big move she needs if she wants to win IMO
what has anybody else done? I mean Denise has the Sandra move but that’s absolutely it.
Sarah has played Ben like a fiddle for one though.
