COLUMN: How COVID-19 will change college football forever

[knowlesjam]

LSU and the SEC planning a full start up on 1 June...

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_05e5f772-9579-11ea-8e62-1b30ee16b63d.html

Obviously things could change, but you can see from the story, this is a plan for everything to be "as usual" June 1st...with COVID temperature checks and isolation. That sounds fun...

As for online tuition issues...check this story out on Washington University in St Louis being sued for charging full tuition and fees (including things like use of the clinic and recreational fitness, etc. when the students aren't even on campus).

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...566102d.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

FYI...cost of Tuition at Washington University is $56,500 per year...not including fees, books, housing, food. Try swallowing that cost for online studies...

 

[Gunnerclone]

So almost 50000 people a year die in car accidents a year in the US. Should we ban cars?Life is not risk free. Pretty sure there is about a 100% chance we are all going to die from something. People have gone off the deep end when it comes to Covid19 and the idea that nothing else matters but stopping it completely. The "cure" is going to be 100x worse than the disease if people don't start having some perspective.

Car accident! Drink some more Fox News splooge. Ope, got some in your hair. Hope you’re getting paid for that money shot.

 

[Raiders70]

This is a very, very blind and uninformed statement.

I don't blame the teachers. They are just following the policy that has been decided on. From what I gather most of them want to do more.

 

[mdk2isu]

That’s 3 thus far, Shooter. Is that what I said? Maybe go back and read the post again (hint: it was COVID specific), or maybe go back and learn to read, not sure which one you need to do first.

COVID specific: you want to put life on hold until there is 0 risk. Again, there will probably never be 0 risk. Eventually you have get to the point of accepting a small amount of risk.

That's not a strawman. Thats a fact.

 

[madguy30]

I don't blame the teachers. They are just following the policy that has been decided on. From what I gather most of them want to do more.

Yep and it takes a while to figure out how to do more and what's going to stick. Some tried to do too much too early and only made for more confusion and stress on already stressful situations.

This football situation is just another example of trying to figure out the logistics of how to make it happen and meaningful without hurting people.

 

[Halincandenza]

COVID specific: you want to put life on hold until there is 0 risk. Again, there will probably never be 0 risk. Eventually you have get to the point of accepting a small amount of risk.

That's not a strawman. Thats a fact.

Risk when there is a vaccine or effective treatment is different than risk without those things. And take into account these are students not professionals and supposedly these kids are students first and not just pawns top be used for adults entertainment and money making purposes.

 

[madguy30]

COVID specific: you want to put life on hold until there is 0 risk. Again, there will probably never be 0 risk. Eventually you have get to the point of accepting a small amount of risk.

That's not a strawman. Thats a fact.

What happens if a player tests positive on Saturday morning? You gonna sit Brock Purdy for 3 games while he waits to get it through his system?

How many programs are in a situation where they can change their entire game plan a few minutes or the night before a game as more players get sick?

 

[Clonefan32]

I think Dabo Swinney alluded to this, but let's be honest, some these kids situations at home probably aren't the best. It's pretty well established that one area COVID is hitting the hardest are underserved communities. By having them back on campus they are in a more controlled setting with access to testing, doctors, etc. So I don't think the "risk" with them being on campus playing football is all that much greater than if they aren't on campus.

 

[Raiders70]

Car accident! Drink some more Fox News splooge. Ope, got some in your hair. Hope you’re getting paid for that money shot.

Nice. Don't watch Fox News. What activities are acceptable for us to resume in your opinion? Because we will never have ZERO deaths from Covid 19.

 

[mdk2isu]

What happens if a player tests positive on Saturday morning? You gonna sit Brock Purdy for 3 games while he waits to get it through his system?

How many programs are in a situation where they can change their entire game plan a few minutes or the night before a game as more players get sick?

What happens if a player gets injured in warmups before a game? You make adjustments. Next man up right?

 

[Gunnerclone]

COVID specific: you want to put life on hold until there is 0 risk. Again, there will probably never be 0 risk. Eventually you have get to the point of accepting a small amount of risk.

That's not a strawman. Thats a fact.

So you don’t think we will have a vaccine, ever? You don’t think we will have herd immunity, ever? Strong take.

 

[Halincandenza]

I think Dabo Swinney alluded to this, but let's be honest, some these kids situations at home probably aren't the best. It's pretty well established that one area COVID is hitting the hardest are underserved communities. By having them back on campus they are in a more controlled setting with access to testing, doctors, etc. So I don't think the "risk" with them being on campus playing football is all that much greater than if they aren't on campus.

Dabo Swinney also said that God was going to stamp the virus out... might not be the most reliable source of information.

 

[madguy30]

What happens if a player gets injured in warmups before a game? You make adjustments. Next man up right?

Are those injuries highly contagious?

The infamous Nebbie fumble game featured a bunch of ISU players out due to being sick. Is that something that's sustainable over several weeks' time?

 

[Halincandenza]

What happens if a player gets injured in warmups before a game? You make adjustments. Next man up right?

What if because one person, Purdy, tests positive that means that all the other people that have had been close to this person have to quarantine as a consequence like is recommended? There goes your entire QB room, RBs, center maybe some other OL, some coaches.

 

[CTTB78]

Exactly, people are trying to say that my argument is invalid because not COVID things. Seems to be made of straw doesn’t it? How does CTE deaths = COVID deaths? This is for anyone?

Who said CTE equaled C19 deaths? You talk about re-reading posts, maybe you should do that as well.
The point was there is not zero risk with CTE, just as there is not zero risk with C19.
I'm not taking issue about your position on whether or not we play football this fall. Basing the decision on zero risk is what doesn't make sense. But, keep spreading that straw.

 

[mdk2isu]

So you don’t think we will have a vaccine, ever? You don’t think we will have herd immunity, ever? Strong take.

We have herd immunity for a lot of things, but some people still get those diseases. Herd immunity doesnt mean no one ever gets sick. It means most people are immune to the disease so it doesnt spread as rapidly and the effects of it are decreased.

We may have a vaccine in 6 months, we may not have one for 5-10 years. We don't know. We still don't have a vaccine for SARS and that was what, 17 years ago?

The point is, you can't put everything on hold waiting for the magic bullet because the magic bullet may never come.

 

[BryceC]

Exactly, people are trying to say that my argument is invalid because not COVID things. Seems to be made of straw doesn’t it? How does CTE deaths = COVID deaths? This is for anyone?

Your argument is that people might die or get sick because of playing football.

People die and get sick from football already from playing football.

Why does the source of the illness or death matter?

It's not a straw man. In fact none of these have really been straw men. You could claim they are false analogies but not straw men.

 

[jmb]

The car accident straw man again? At least be original when building a straw man.

How about bounce houses?

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An average of 31 children per day are hospitalized because of injuries caused by a bounce house or inflatable castle. That is approximately 65,000 children that have been injured from 1990 to 2010. From 2000-2015, there have been 64 bounce house accidents caused by wind, resulting in 271 injuries and 10 deaths.

 

[BryceC]

So you don’t think we will have a vaccine, ever? You don’t think we will have herd immunity, ever? Strong take.

I think it's unlikely we get a vaccine within a year.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/without-a-vaccine-herd-immunity-wont-save-us/

 

[BryceC]

The car accident straw man again? At least be original when building a straw man.

The car accident thing is remarkably dumb but it's a false analogy, not a straw man.