Attendance policy from JP...

Urbandale2013

Well-Known Member
Jan 28, 2018
4,796
5,940
113
30
Urbandale
You need some damn perspective.
You need some damn perspective. I’m not advocating for being reckless or anything. I’m not even totally against cancelling the season if stuff gets worse again.

I haven’t seen any of my friends since this started. I’m probably going to see some for the 4th finally but I’ve been trying to keep distanced. It also doesn’t help that a lot of them work with the public extensively.

There comes a point though where we have to question what’s the point. If I can’t see friends and I can’t watch sports then I don’t exactly have a lot to live for. If football is a no go we are likely an entire calendar year gone.

I just don’t see the point in that life. Hopefully we get to a point we can get back to some normal but I think that question is a lot closer for a lot of people than some of you.
 

beentherebefore

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2007
1,460
1,871
113
Well, I will say that I have been lucky SO FAR. My wife is a medical provider. No COVID-19 yet for her. My oldest daughter is a lawyer and has been seeing clients throughout the crisis. No COVID-19 yet for her. My daughter who will be a junior at ISU in the fall has been working through all this. No COVID-19 yet for her. My youngest daughter has been working at Starbucks almost every day except for the few weeks the local Starbucks was closed. No COVID-19 yet for her. My son and I have been hanging out trying to keep his education on track and live among all my other family members. No COVID-19 for us.

So, I know we have been fortunate, but we also have to admit that this virus must target some and not so much others. It's tricky, and I am OK with attending games. But I also know that my own luck may run out. It does seem as though we must be doing something right SO FAR.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NWICY

clonedude

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2006
33,053
29,307
113
You need some damn perspective. I’m not advocating for being reckless or anything. I’m not even totally against cancelling the season if stuff gets worse again.

I haven’t seen any of my friends since this started. I’m probably going to see some for the 4th finally but I’ve been trying to keep distanced. It also doesn’t help that a lot of them work with the public extensively.

There comes a point though where we have to question what’s the point. If I can’t see friends and I can’t watch sports then I don’t exactly have a lot to live for. If football is a no go we are likely an entire calendar year gone.

I just don’t see the point in that life. Hopefully we get to a point we can get back to some normal but I think that question is a lot closer for a lot of people than some of you.

At worst, this could be no ISU football for one season. One stinkin' season! And you don't think you could live through that?

We are SO spoiled it isn't even funny. How did previous generations live through the Great Depression, WWII, etc? We are so soft.

We can all survive a year without football.... and yes possibly basketball too. If not, you need to re-adjust your priorities in life.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SolarGarlic

Gunnerclone

Well-Known Member
Jul 16, 2010
75,682
80,074
113
DSM
You need some damn perspective. I’m not advocating for being reckless or anything. I’m not even totally against cancelling the season if stuff gets worse again.

I haven’t seen any of my friends since this started. I’m probably going to see some for the 4th finally but I’ve been trying to keep distanced. It also doesn’t help that a lot of them work with the public extensively.

There comes a point though where we have to question what’s the point. If I can’t see friends and I can’t watch sports then I don’t exactly have a lot to live for. If football is a no go we are likely an entire calendar year gone.

I just don’t see the point in that life. Hopefully we get to a point we can get back to some normal but I think that question is a lot closer for a lot of people than some of you.

How long have been following COVID safety measures? 13 years? Lol. Whiny.
 

dahliaclone

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2007
16,198
25,063
113
Minneapolis
At worst, this could be no ISU football for one season. One stinkin' season! And you don't think you could live through that?

We are SO spoiled it isn't even funny. How did previous generations live through the Great Depression, WWII, etc? We are so soft.

We can all survive a year without football.... and yes possibly basketball too. If not, you need to re-adjust your priorities in life.

this is a great post. It’s sad how entitled we’ve become. Boo boo we can’t watch sports for a year. Screw the health and safety of countless people...mindboggling.
 

WooBadger18

Well-Known Member
Sep 5, 2012
15,177
13,579
113
On Wisconsin
this is a great post. It’s sad how entitled we’ve become. Boo boo we can’t watch sports for a year. Screw the health and safety of countless people...mindboggling.
Sure, it is, but I also don't think the WWII one is a great example. I would personally rather take the restrictions that we had on the home front during WWII than current restrictions (and granted, that's also because I have been following restrictions).
 

Urbandale2013

Well-Known Member
Jan 28, 2018
4,796
5,940
113
30
Urbandale
Sure, it is, but I also don't think the WWII one is a great example. I would personally rather take the restrictions that we had on the home front during WWII than current restrictions (and granted, that's also because I have been following restrictions).
I agree with you. If we have to just have one calendar year and we are back in the spring to normal I can deal with that. (I had to view a bunch of ignored posts) There’s no guarantee we are back to normal next spring though. That’s the problem. People act like we will for sure have it fixed at some point in the future and we just have to wait.

If you guaranteed me that we remain like this until April and then we would be back to normal I can make that work. People can’t make that guarantee though. There’s a decent chance we will still have these problems this time next year. I’m probably a bit pessimistic on treatments and vaccines but I think this is going to be something we just have to figure out how to live with for the foreseeable future.
 

Macloney

Well-Known Member
Feb 28, 2014
5,194
5,668
113
Up Nort
Moneyline on delayed season has been as bad as -900.

Being optimistic is one thing and being realistic is another.

I would be surprised if there was even a season or on campus classes.

I would be absolutely shocked if there were fans in the stands if there was a season.

It just isn't happening guys.
 

alarson

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 15, 2006
59,615
74,460
113
Ankeny
I agree with you. If we have to just have one calendar year and we are back in the spring to normal I can deal with that. (I had to view a bunch of ignored posts) There’s no guarantee we are back to normal next spring though. That’s the problem. People act like we will for sure have it fixed at some point in the future and we just have to wait.

If you guaranteed me that we remain like this until April and then we would be back to normal I can make that work. People can’t make that guarantee though. There’s a decent chance we will still have these problems this time next year. I’m probably a bit pessimistic on treatments and vaccines but I think this is going to be something we just have to figure out how to live with for the foreseeable future.

Define 'normal' though, and explain why that has to include large events. Even without a vaccine, if people would commit to things like wearing masks and limiting exposures, we could get things down to a level where people could live mostly normal lives just not with the big events. A good number of other countries have already achieved this, so the road map is already there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Macloney

jsb

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 7, 2008
33,383
39,483
113
Define 'normal' though, and explain why that has to include large events. Even without a vaccine, if people would commit to things like wearing masks and limiting exposures, we could get things down to a level where people could live mostly normal lives just not with the big events. A good number of other countries have already achieved this, so the road map is already there.

But this country is filled with idiots who think science is fake, doing what you want damned the consequences for others is your god given right, and they are too special to get sick.
 

jsb

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 7, 2008
33,383
39,483
113
I agree with you. If we have to just have one calendar year and we are back in the spring to normal I can deal with that. (I had to view a bunch of ignored posts) There’s no guarantee we are back to normal next spring though. That’s the problem. People act like we will for sure have it fixed at some point in the future and we just have to wait.

If you guaranteed me that we remain like this until April and then we would be back to normal I can make that work. People can’t make that guarantee though. There’s a decent chance we will still have these problems this time next year. I’m probably a bit pessimistic on treatments and vaccines but I think this is going to be something we just have to figure out how to live with for the foreseeable future.

Here's the thing. You are going to have to make it work no matter what. That's life. Believe me, I want to be in Jack Trice in 3 months too. I will be very sad if I'm not and I'm one of those people that are mocked on here for not having much more of a life ;) But there's nothing I can do about it and I have to deal with the decision.
 

Sparkplug

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 9, 2008
3,024
1,962
113
Central Iowa
Tailgating lots will be the problem. People without tickets will want to party in the lots and will find a way to do it.
 

alarson

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 15, 2006
59,615
74,460
113
Ankeny
Tailgating lots will be the problem. People without tickets will want to party in the lots and will find a way to do it.

I dont think that's much of an issue. If its safe to have fans in the stadium (it probably isnt) tailgating is less of a risk than that so it'd be generally ok.
 

rochclone

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jan 28, 2009
5,292
5,592
113
If we don't have a football season this fall, Cyclone Fanatic might not make it financially.
If we don’t have a football season in 2020-21 the Iowa State Athletic Department wont make it financially. FIFY.
 

clonedude

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2006
33,053
29,307
113
If we don’t have a football season in 2020-21 the Iowa State Athletic Department wont make it financially. FIFY.

What if we have a season with no fans in the stands? Would ISU make it financially then?

If not, then it will come down simply to people's lives vs. $$$. In America unfortunately, $$$ usually win out. That's why we're in this f***ed up position in the first place. People couldn't hold off a while longer, like other countries did. Look where those countries are now compared with us.

Many of us on here said we'd have to sacrifice in the spring and summer if we wanted to attend football games in the fall. But we didn't want to do that as a country. So we are where we are. Screwed.
 

RIPVEISHEA

Active Member
Mar 27, 2015
457
73
28
At worst, this could be no ISU football for one season. One stinkin' season! And you don't think you could live through that?

We are SO spoiled it isn't even funny. How did previous generations live through the Great Depression, WWII, etc? We are so soft.

We can all survive a year without football.... and yes possibly basketball too. If not, you need to re-adjust your priorities in life.

I hear where you’re coming from in a lot of this, BUT I don’t think we can downplay the actual toll this is taking on people’s mental health.

I think if you’re a member of this site, sports bring something positive to your life.

Many people haven’t seen parents, kids, grandkids, friends, etc. for months. If things continue this way, families will spend holidays alone. There are people on this site who have had parents die alone because of COVID restrictions. People living in constant anxiety because of risk factors for them or a loved one.

I get that in the grand scheme of life, a year without sports seems minuscule. But if it’s one of the things in your life that brings you joy, and it’s one on a list of things you’re missing — that takes it’s toll.

I don’t think people are willing to acknowledge this has been hard mentally. I would guess there are many dealing with depression as a result and have no idea how to identify the signs. Maybe one reason some seem to be so willing to return to “normal” even though that’s not scientifically smart right now.

Let’s just all take it easy on each other about what brings joy and happiness in these times.
 

IcSyU

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2007
28,307
6,981
113
I hear where you’re coming from in a lot of this, BUT I don’t think we can downplay the actual toll this is taking on people’s mental health.

I think if you’re a member of this site, sports bring something positive to your life.

Many people haven’t seen parents, kids, grandkids, friends, etc. for months. If things continue this way, families will spend holidays alone. There are people on this site who have had parents die alone because of COVID restrictions. People living in constant anxiety because of risk factors for them or a loved one.

I get that in the grand scheme of life, a year without sports seems minuscule. But if it’s one of the things in your life that brings you joy, and it’s one on a list of things you’re missing — that takes it’s toll.

I don’t think people are willing to acknowledge this has been hard mentally. I would guess there are many dealing with depression as a result and have no idea how to identify the signs. Maybe one reason some seem to be so willing to return to “normal” even though that’s not scientifically smart right now.

Let’s just all take it easy on each other about what brings joy and happiness in these times.
It says a lot more about who we are as a society now if sports are what breaks people. Losing your job? I get that being a really tough life event.

Not being able to go to the bar/a football game/all other kinds of unimportant ****? Please.
 

Rabbuk

Well-Known Member
Mar 1, 2011
56,961
46,118
113
You need some damn perspective. I’m not advocating for being reckless or anything. I’m not even totally against cancelling the season if stuff gets worse again.

I haven’t seen any of my friends since this started. I’m probably going to see some for the 4th finally but I’ve been trying to keep distanced. It also doesn’t help that a lot of them work with the public extensively.

There comes a point though where we have to question what’s the point. If I can’t see friends and I can’t watch sports then I don’t exactly have a lot to live for. If football is a no go we are likely an entire calendar year gone.

I just don’t see the point in that life. Hopefully we get to a point we can get back to some normal but I think that question is a lot closer for a lot of people than some of you.
check out zoom or facetime. new thing this year.