Pollard announces plan for 25,000 fans at season opener

[qwerty]

I posted this in another thread but this thread might be a better spot.

Iowa State AD discusses Big 12 protocols for no-contest, forfeit

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[Rabbuk]

If fans are in the stands and not wearing masks they won't be in the stands. It's that simple

That hasn't beem enforced anywhere because people being paid 9 bucks an hour shouldnt be getting shanked

 

[flycy]

But there were 60,000-ish people in Story County prior to the students coming, and we were at 247 cases on 8/14. You would expect to only see the rate go up by an additional 50% of that number if you were adding in people acting similarly (or roughly 124 additional positives). But it's not, it's gone up now to 1197 just yesterday, which is an increase of about 485% over the 247. Considering those students were all tested when they came onsite and there were only ~130 positives at the time, I don't think that the part about potentially being positive up to three months after is relevant other than for maybe 130 of them.

I don't think anyone should have been surprised by this, either. Even if there weren't parties (which is laughable), students by nature live in close quarters and have more community spaces. Most students interact with the community in some nature, so there is going to be community spread from them that will be trickling down coming up. Combined with the football game and Labor Day, if we use the increases around Memorial Day and the 4th as predictive (which would be a fair assessment), I think we'll see spikes again in about 2.5 to 3 weeks.

I totally get the desire for optimism, but again - the NYT numbers are not arguable by Wintersteen. They're just flat-out not about ISU.

Self-edit - up to 1214 today, per the Iowa COVID tracker that has been fluctuating pretty wildly lately.

I see 79 for story county for yesterday and a big goose egg for deaths in the last week? Are you using cumulative data from somewhere? It also blows me away that we still track and micromanage positive tests rather than primarily looking at hospitalizations and deaths.

 

[RonBurgundy]

Thinking this through. Each side is what, 400 feet in length? The one side is 200 feet wide? There are about 100 rows per side but factor in the sukup, grass and jake suites to counter the top missing rows on the south. Now figure each set of tickets has 2 people in a group. You need 6 foot between people. So 2 foot a person and 6 foot between means 5 foot a person for easier math. 400+400+200 gives us 1000 foot of bleacher space per row. That equates to 200 people per row. Now factor 100 rows gives us 20,000 people who can social distance with only groups of 2. Some groups of 5-8 and you are pushing 25k with social distancing in JTS.

I am guessing his thought process was more like the following:

(a) Announce early that only 30,000 season tickets will be sold. Sells out. He can always sell single game seats if the situation had improved.

(b) There have already been more than 5,000 opt-outs. Might as well announce 25,000 max today. Preferable to going through the donor list and denying 5,000, not knowing who wants to come and who will stay home.

(c) There will be more opt-outs following this announcement, more opt-outs once game time is announced, etc. More no shows than typical.

We will likely have less than 20,000 show up, which will probably put us consistent with other P5 attendance policies. But he is letting the fans make the call instead of just cutting right now.

 

[Trice]

I am guessing his thought process was more like the following:

(a) Announce early that only 30,000 season tickets will be sold. Sells out. He can always sell single game seats if the situation had improved.

(b) There have already been more than 5,000 opt-outs. Might as well announce 25,000 max today. Preferable to going through the donor list and denying 5,000, not knowing who wants to come and who will stay home.

(c) There will be more opt-outs following this announcement, more opt-outs once game time is announced, etc. More no shows than typical.

We will likely have less than 20,000 show up, which will probably put us consistent with other P5 attendance policies. But he is letting the fans make the call instead of just cutting right now.

The opt-out deadline was Friday.

 

[RonBurgundy]

The fact that most of the people demanding we have full fan attendance were the ones demanding that we prematurely throw bars and restaurants wide open (which has correlated highly to increased case counts) and have been the largest opposition to wearing masks to reduce spread all summer shows that having faith in these people to suddenly do the right thing is severely misplaced.

No one has literally ever said we should have full attendance. You just making crap up now?

 

[RonBurgundy]

The opt-out deadline was Friday.

No, it may not be published, but I know of a person in our group that opted out today and it was accepted.

 

[Angie]

I see 79 for story county for yesterday and a big goose egg for deaths in the last week? Are you using cumulative data from somewhere?

1214 active nfections for 8/31: https://iowacovid19tracker.org/story-county/

It went up by ~79, maybe that's what you're seeing?

 

[BCClone]

Local emergency management person doing an interview and was asked about Ames and Iowa city being in The NY Times paper. He mentioned one thing they didn’t provide was a valuable background information. He said they used cases per capita, but what he was noticing was they didn’t include the student population into the county total population. So you take story county and add about cases from another third of the people but don’t divide by that, it makes it different than northwestern adding into Chicago. I never thought about that flaw.

This guy has no dog in the story county or Johnson county hunt so it wasn’t to Protect himself.

 

[qwerty]

I wonder if we will have one of the biggest (if not the biggest) crowd that day which may attract a higher profile TV slot/channel or at least plenty of mentions on the other game broadcasts. SEC doesn't start until Sept 26th. IF we can pull it off successfully, that would be a huge publicity win for Iowa State. SO EVERYONE DO YOUR PART! I am doing mine by staying home.

 

[Ms3r4ISU]

No, it may not be published, but I know of a person in our group that opted out today and it was accepted.

It’s also in today’s information from JP.

 

[Cyclad]

The way you're acting, it'll likely be you to break the rules just to prove a point. For crying out loud, 100% of the people there will want football. 100% of the people there will abide by the rules because not doing so would ruin it for everyone.

Interesting comment.
So people will 100% follow the rules because they want football, but not to protect themselves and their follow citizens.
Sadly, I think you might be correct, but I will go with 99%. Speaks to our values of our society.

 

[Trice]

It’s also in today’s information from JP.

Not in the email to ticketholders, it wasn't. I haven't read everything from his press conference, perhaps he mentioned it there.

 

[qwerty]

Looking for a good ISU mask. The one I got through the alumni association is awful. Anybody with a good link or source? I live in the Quad Cites. TIA

I have bought 5-6 from Terris Crafts in Muscatine ($5 each). She uses good heavy fabric and does a great job. Says she will do custom masks if you have requests or fabric. Her ISU selection was thin but again, will do custom if you can point to a fabric. She is on Facebook as Terris Crafts.

 

[CyTwins]

That hasn't beem enforced anywhere because people being paid 9 bucks an hour shouldnt be getting shanked

It will be enforced

 

[CyArob]

"I love football stadiums with 25,000 people." - Covid-19

 

[Trice]

I wonder if we will have one of the biggest (if not the biggest) crowd that day which may attract a higher profile TV slot/channel or at least plenty of mentions on the other game broadcasts. SEC doesn't start until Sept 26th. IF we can pull it off successfully, that would be a huge publicity win for Iowa State. SO EVERYONE DO YOUR PART! I am doing mine by staying home.

How are we defining "huge publicity win" in this context?

 

[BCClone]

Interesting comment.
So people will 100% follow the rules because they want football, but not to protect themselves and their follow citizens.
Sadly, I think you might be correct, but I will go with 99%. Speaks to our values of our society.

Not surprising. It’s something that affects them and what they want. People honestly don’t care about people they don’t know (For the most part) when it affects them. Look at how people treat each other on here and most of us went to the same school and came from the same state. How many people name call, make personal attacks simply because they have a different opinion of someone else. This is a good example of general society, and it’s not just the US. People in other countries are treated terrible also.

 

[Cyclad]

Not surprising. It’s something that affects them and what they want. People honestly don’t care about people they don’t know (For the most part) when it affects them. Look at how people treat each other on here and most of us went to the same school and came from the same state. How many people name call, make personal attacks simply because they have a different opinion of someone else. This is a good example of general society, and it’s not just the US. People in other countries are treated terrible also.

Well, I am no saint by any means, but I care.
I know others do to. I preached that on here many times. Wear a mask for everybody else. Oh well, we agree, but disagree perhaps on the magnitude of not caring for others.

 

[stateofmind]

Pollard For President!!!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't F... this up. I want to whiteness a win over OU at JTS.

Is this another term for privilege?