but those are just stats and facts. Who cares about those.
really though, nice stats. send them to jake and HB.
Jake Sullivan on M&M show
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but those are just stats and facts. Who cares about those.
really though, nice stats. send them to jake and HB.
I get tired of reading how Jake needs to do whats best financially for HB. Last I checked college BB doesn't hand out paychecks, at least they aren't suppose to. If HB is that good It won't make any difference if he goes to Duke or ISU thats just a lame excuse. Another thing, is K's style that much different than McD? Say what you want but Jake is looking out for Jake. ISU owes Jake nothing, he received a free education and thats a big deal that last about 20 years, ask my kids, and people paid to see him play, it wasn't free.
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You could also ask how many players does ISU have [laying in the NBA this year. Zero (unless you count Mike Taylor) and then one.
What would Jake Sullivan owe Iowa State? The University paid for his education, but he earned it through four years of being one of the best shooters we have ever seen, being on some of the best teams we have ever seen, staying out of trouble and being a great role model. In my opinion when you sign a letter of intent and get a full-ride to any school the only expectation of you is to go to class, stay out of the police reports and do the best you can on the floor/field/ect.
I dont think it is as much doing what is best for HB financially, I think JS is obligated to do what is best for Harrison and his family because he is paid to be his coach and mentor. These AAU circuit teams are expensive, and for someone with a profile like Harrison JS is being paid to be not only a coach, but almost to act like an agent. Harrison will make some serious jack in the pros no matter what...and I don't think that was ever in question.
I love how all AAU coaches push there players to one program or another. The one Harrison happens to play on has a coach from Iowa State and he is the one that does not push Harrison towards ISU. Jake better get his act straight. He is being supported by ISU boosters and get's Ames players. I would rather have him playing for Martin Brothers. They at least try to get the best kids to go to Iowa Schools.
HB = baby Jesus?
I am already sick of hearing about him and we still have a year until he announces.
I am already sick of hearing about him and we still have a year until he announces.
I think Jake owes enough to Iowa State to acknowledge that he can't be an impartial advisor in Barnes' situation. Coach him up, that's fine. But any influence either way that Sullivan would have over Barnes' decision is unwarranted. What advice can Sullivan possibly give Barnes that would be novel or needed? Barnes knows exactly what he's getting with all three of his top choices and it's a choice that he alone must make.
Fans of Iowa State can't ask Sullivan to push Barnes to ISU and Sullivan shouldn't be pushing Barnes one way or another. It's an informed choice that a young adult must make and Sullivan can do nothing but complicate the situation.
Actually KU had 8 players in the NBA in 2004. Nick Collison, Kirk Hinrich, Drew Gooden, Paul Pierce, Raef LaFrentz, Scot Pollard, Jacque Vaughn and Greg Ostertag. Currently they have 10. It's true you can get to the NBA from anywhere, but some schools do send more there on a consistent basis then others. That is only because those schools end up with higher rated recruits and higher rated recruits end up in the NBA more often. If he's good enough, he'll end up in the NBA, even if he plays for a D2 school. It's just a matter of where he wants to play. We lose football players to OU and I always feel they should stay home, but they win the conference a bunch of times and play for National titles, so I understand why they may want to go.
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Jake said he didn't like McDermott's style for Harrison, not for himself. They are two completely different players who would succeed in two different offenses.
This situation will play out one of two ways:
Harrison Barnes comes here for 1-4 years (likely 1 or 2), is subject to unreal expectations, plays well, and hopefull takes our team to the next level.
or
Harrison Barnes does not come here, and instead of him we pick up another player that can come in and contribute for four years. This person could end up being another Jake Sullivan, a solid contributor for his whole career, or maybe could develop into a star who knows.
The point of this is that we will get better either way. While HB might expedite the process, we are going in the right way, our recruiting seems to be on the up and up and overall we will get better with or without HB.
Harrison Barnes comes here for 1-4 years (likely 1 or 2), is subject to unreal expectations, plays well, and hopefull takes our team to the next level.
or
Harrison Barnes does not come here, and instead of him we pick up another player that can come in and contribute for four years. This person could end up being another Jake Sullivan, a solid contributor for his whole career, or maybe could develop into a star who knows.
The point of this is that we will get better either way. While HB might expedite the process, we are going in the right way, our recruiting seems to be on the up and up and overall we will get better with or without HB.
Seriously, none of you think it's a bad thing that a stand out at our University while he played here, is out there toting other schools as the place to be? By that mentality, you are saying that anyone that Mac Recruits that is a top rated recruit, is doing a bad thing by telling the kid ISU is the best place for him. I'm not saying Jake is doing a bad thing, nor am I saying he has to stand up for ISU. It's his life and he has to make his way. I'm just saying I don't like it and I don't see why I should. I really don't know the ins and outs of what Jake sullivan does, but it sounds to me like he's figured out a way to be an agent to high school kids. Sounds to me that if he can put "his kid" in a top tier program it works out better for him than sending them to ISU.
I'm sorry, I don't like it. Anyone we are recruiting and really want to come here, shouldn't be told by one of our alumni that another school is better for them.
I'm sorry, I don't like it. Anyone we are recruiting and really want to come here, shouldn't be told by one of our alumni that another school is better for them.
