I feel CF has not accepted TJ as our coach.

[Bigman38]

Whether you like it or not he’s here for a minimum of what, 4 years?

Spend those years whining like a ***** if you want, I’ll chose to be optimistic.

 

[Acylum]

Saying you would only declare your support as long as you can say you didn't support the hire is absolutely a qualification. That's not even debatable. Do you want to break out the definition?

You might want to go back and re-read the post you quoted. That’s not even close to what was said.

 

[Brett44]

It was totally embarrassing to watch us play KSU the first time and just watch our guys try to screen and cut. Just a totally Mickey Mouse operation.

it’s nice that TJ has low expectations thanks to JP’s last hire, but it’s still bad.

It’s nice that JP is happy about the credits and debits though. ******* nerd. Probably was running around an oval while people played more complicated sports.

 

[t-noah]

Pretty sad people who love the same team/university can fight isn’t it?

There are a lot of people on here, likely everywhere, that just like to be argumentative. I've already made my thoughts known and agree with you! Especially the part about shutting up.

You will see the same people here though, I'll bet. They can't help themselves with their critical nature and ingenious takes.

Good luck with your thread and poll.

 

[Acylum]

It was totally embarrassing to watch us play KSU the first time and just watch our guys try to screen and cut. Just a totally Mickey Mouse

Thank you. 90% of the time the player with the ball ended up with such a huge gap between himself and the screener there was really no point in it. And it was usually a ****** screen to begin with. It isn’t rocket surgery coaching how to set and use a screen, and put a ******* body on somebody to get a rebound. I had two different coaches in HS and both of them could teach those.

 

[Brett44]

He’s a nice guy that will get along with Jamie and get recruits, but we need a guy who knows basketball. We haven’t had a good defensive team since Wayne Morgan. Bringing the magic back just means putting together an offense that makes shots. Probably destined for NIT if this is Hoiball v.0.9

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

There are a lot of people on here, likely everywhere, that just like to be argumentative. I've already made my thoughts known and agree with you! Especially the part about shutting up.

You will see the same people here though, I'll bet. They can't help themselves with their critical nature and ingenious takes.

Good luck with your thread and poll.

I do a lot of research on mental illness and something I came across is this idea that some people aren't unhappy but are miserable by nature, or at least seem miserable to the majority of their cohort. Some people really are just miserable bastards. Takes all types though.

 

[Brett44]

You have to teach your guys to screen. You have to teach them to run the floor. You have to teach your big men to put their ass in the right place to get easy buckets. We could’ve done better imo

 

[t-noah]

I hope after another couple of weeks people will just get it on record and out of their system that they don't like the hire, then let things fall where they may, give the guy a chance.

I'm sure we all want TJ to succeed. To me it's not like it really matters if in 5 years we're all back here pounding our chests as to whether we were right or wrong.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

You have to teach your guys to screen. You have to teach them to run the floor. You have to teach your big men to put their ass in the right place to get easy buckets. We could’ve done better imo

I'm not sure how much Prohm could light a fire under your ass. Never saw much fire out of his players.

 

[Brett44]

You have to teach them when to block out and when to go for the board. We’re just going to be soft again because our guys will be thinking rather than doing. Ugh...I like TJ but we didn’t need this hire.

 

[CYCLNST8]

T.J. was the most qualified loyal son on the market. Good enough for me.

 

[Brett44]

We didn’t need a guy off the Hoiberg coaching tree. Jimmy Butler was right when he got mad about the Bulls being a bunch of pussies under Hoiberg. And he’s failing at Nebraska.

Same reason we didn’t need a coach off the Billy Kennedy failtree.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

We didn’t need a guy off the Hoiberg coaching tree. Jimmy Butler was right when he got mad about the Bulls being a bunch of pussies under Hoiberg.

Melvin was a *****? Hogue? Royce? Scotty?

 

[Sigmapolis]

Melvin was a *****? Hogue? Royce? Scotty?

Kane hitting the floor every drive
Georges’ busted eyebrow
Morris and Naz playing through injuries
Naz coming back from a *really* difficult surgery
Babb the hard-nosed defender

 

[GTO]

Why is this so hard for people to understand? Yes, we will support TJ once the season starts, the same way we supported Prohm, Hoiberg, McDermott, Morgan, etc. Or do you guys think that those of us unhappy with the hire will cheer against the coach (and against ISU)? That is beyond dumb. Blindly supporting the hire right away does not make you a "better fan".

However, it still does not change the fact that the "hiring process" was an absolute sham. If you think that the process had been going on for weeks/months and many candidates were contacted, well then JP could sell you some oceanfront property in Ames. The fact is that most schools try to hire proven winners, young up-and-comers, or seasoned veteran coaches. TJ is none of those. Look, the reality is we're hiring a coach who has been mediocre at best in worse conferences than the B12. And we expect him to make the jump to greatness in one of the toughest conferences in the nation.

I hope to God he does well, because that would mean that ISU would be doing well. But I see all the mid-major coaches making the tourney, young coaches, coaches who went from big conferences to smaller ones who may want another crack at the big leagues and I think to myself: None of those coaches would want to coach in the Big12? ALL of these guys and their agents really turned down the ISU job? Are all these guys making $3-5 million a year, so we could not afford them? Again, really doubt it.

This was a lazy, cheap hire by JP to go back to his friend/guy he always wanted as head coach/friend of the program. Since we'll likely never know who interviewed and who didn't, they can say whatever they want about how extensive the process was and we'll just have to take their word for it. But if you tell me the "best candidate" was a guy with mediocre results at mid majors, don't expect me to be excited and jumping out of my seat for that.

And one more thing, being an alumni/from Iowa/or loving the program is never a pre-requisite for a head coach. Some of the best coaches are not alumni of the universities they coach. That type of connection is really overrated.

Anyway, flame away.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Why is this so hard for people to understand? Yes, we will support TJ once the season starts, the same way we supported Prohm, Hoiberg, McDermott, Morgan, etc. Or do you guys think that those of us unhappy with the hire will cheer against the coach (and against ISU)? That is beyond dumb. Blindly supporting the hire right away does not make you a "better fan".

However, it still does not change the fact that the "hiring process" was an absolute sham. If you think that the process had been going on for weeks/months and many candidates were contacted, well then JP could sell you some oceanfront property in Ames. The fact is that most schools try to hire proven winners, young up-and-comers, or seasoned veteran coaches. TJ is none of those. Look, the reality is we're hiring a coach who has been mediocre at best in worse conferences than the B12. And we expect him to make the jump to greatness in one of the toughest conferences in the nation.

I hope to God he does well, because that would mean that ISU would be doing well. But I see all the mid-major coaches making the tourney, young coaches, coaches who went from big conferences to smaller ones who may want another crack at the big leagues and I think to myself: None of those coaches would want to coach in the Big12? ALL of these guys and their agents really turned down the ISU job? Are all these guys making $3-5 million a year, so we could not afford them? Again, really doubt it.

This was a lazy, cheap hire by JP to go back to his friend/guy he always wanted as head coach/friend of the program. Since we'll likely never know who interviewed and who didn't, they can say whatever they want about how extensive the process was and we'll just have to take their word for it. But if you tell me the "best candidate" was a guy with mediocre results at mid majors, don't expect me to be excited and jumping out of my seat for that.

And one more thing, being an alumni/from Iowa/or loving the program is never a pre-requisite for a head coach. Some of the best coaches are not alumni of the universities they coach. That type of connection is really overrated.

Anyway, flame away.

So let's say all your cynicism is correct. If Jamie has to justify going cheap to keep Campbell and the football team rolling I'm 100% behind it.

 

[GTO]

So let's say all your cynicism is correct. If Jamie has to justify going cheap to keep Campbell and the football team rolling I'm 100% behind it.

I mean, he could have gone cheap and hired any of the coaches who finished ahead of TJ in his conference.

 

[Althetuna]

Go Cyclones.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I mean, he could have gone cheap and hired any of the coaches who finished ahead of TJ in his conference.

I didn't have him as my first pick but it wasn't mine to make. I'm 100% on board.