I have no idea but he didn't go into too much detail one things. Sounds excited and ready to go. Discussed focusing on building good habits and really recruiting the Midwest. I will admit, the more I listen to him, the more I hear a winner. He said one quote that has stuck with him is "Adapt or die" and he is 100% accurate with that! I think he gets it, it might take some time but he's a motivator for sure. You can hear it.Is there an online link to this interview? I'd like to listen.