ISU Rowing Team Drowning

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I don’t have any knowledge of crew club and how their protocol works, but I’m part of another sports club at Iowa State and there is not a ton of oversight. I’ve been a member for over a year, I couldn’t tell you who our faculty advisor is and we don’t have a coach. My sport is significantly less dangerous, but I’m surprised how little oversight there is.

A long time ago the trap and skeet club ran with minimum supervision. Shot over at Boone (Izaak Walton maybe?)
 

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. ?? Ya wait till the water temps are above 40F,,,,, maybe 60F. WHO was in charge here?

they ARE adults. They were in charge and made a bad decision. Clubs at ISU are pretty loosely organized. You file the paperwork and have scheduled meetings and elections and boom...you’re a club. Was in several at ISU and don’t remember non-student adults involved at all.
 

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If you’re in Iowa and you don’t go out in the wind, when do you go out? They probably saw what was coming and decided this was their best chance to get out over the next week.
. ?? Ya wait till the water temps are above 40F,,,,, maybe 60F. WHO was in charge here?
When is crew season? From what I gather from the internet, crew season is primarily a spring sport. Seems to me summer/fall would make more sense especially for northern schools.
 

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How big of a dic*head can you be to make a comment like this? Pretty big. Congrats.


To come to the defense of BWR, he may be simply saying that it isn't unreasonable to think they might be able to swim to shore . . . like two of them did.

He acknowledged that there were other factors, such as choppy waves that might prevent it.

He might not have said it quite right, but I doubt he was being as callous as it seems to have sounded to some of you.
 

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When is crew season? From what I gather from the internet, crew season is primarily a spring sport. Seems to me summer/fall would make more sense especially for northern schools.

There are both spring and fall seasons. From what I have gathered, spring season games start around these parts in mid April. I have not found a schedule for the ISU crew club for 2021. FB posts from last weekend indicate they just got their shell and gear back from repair on Saturday.
 

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The updated Daily article said one of the survivors swam to the north shore and one swam to the south shore. The third was rescued by a kayaker.

Just an unreal situation. I can't imagine how it went down that everyone went in different directions.
 

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To come to the defense of BWR, he may be simply saying that it isn't unreasonable to think they might be able to swim to shore . . . like two of them did.

He acknowledged that there were other factors, such as choppy waves that might prevent it.

He might not have said it quite right, but I doubt he was being as callous as it seems to have sounded to some of you.
I hope so. Cause that was a horrible thing to say otherwise. "I swam the 500 in an indoor climate controlled pool with no waves in a speedo... can't believe they couldn't make it to shore"
 

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To come to the defense of BWR, he may be simply saying that it isn't unreasonable to think they might be able to swim to shore . . . like two of them did.

He acknowledged that there were other factors, such as choppy waves that might prevent it.

He might not have said it quite right, but I doubt he was being as callous as it seems to have sounded to some of you.
There we’re definitely multiple factors at play, and I’m not saying it’s not possible for people to have made that swim, since two of them did. But it’s unreasonable to just say “why didn’t they just swim a quarter mile to shore?” That’s just completely ignoring the wind, the shock, potential hypothermia, and inexperience among the members.

I deleted what I previously commented because I’m going to give BWR the benefit of the doubt. But I really do hope they were not meaning it the way that I read it.
 
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The Social Network (or any movie set at an Ivy League school where the characters walk by practice as an establishing shot) is the only time I've seen rowing so I kinda assumed it was all guys. Wrong.

I looked at their ISU page and it seems to be several years old but half the leadership is/was women. It's totally a moot point. I had no idea ISU had rowing. Lots of good into in this thread.
 

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The Social Network (or any movie set at an Ivy League school where the characters walk by practice as an establishing shot) is the only time I've seen rowing so I kinda assumed it was all guys. Wrong.

I looked at their ISU page and it seems to be several years old but half the leadership is/was women. It's totally a moot point. I had no idea ISU had rowing. Lots of good into in this thread.
Seeing the five people mentioned it would’ve been a 4 person scull with a coxswain (coach/rhythm keeper) at the front for the fifth. The club has had coed groups compete in the past.
 

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The updated Daily article said one of the survivors swam to the north shore and one swam to the south shore. The third was rescued by a kayaker.
I highly doubt anyone swam to the north shore unless Michael Phelps was part of their group. The wind was straight out of the Northwest.

It's possible they ended up in that bay on the east side but I highly doubt they just swam straight into the wind and ended up on the north shore.
 

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The names of the two students killed in Sunday's boating accident have been released by the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office and Iowa State University Police Department, Tuesday afternoon.

Iowa State Crew Club members Yaakov Ben-David, a sophomore accounting major, and Derek Nanni, a freshman chemistry major, were killed when their boat capsized Sunday morning.