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Too early in the process, but the feel from the Packers is that they don't believe Rodgers will act on the possibility of him to 'retiring' and will stand pat on no trade. As much of a fruitcake that Rodgers is, I'd still put that threat at 50:50.
 

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This is the kind of crap that as a fan turns me off when pro athletes try to pull this crap. He signed the contract to play for the Packers and while I understand the frustrations he has with the front office but is there anything in the CBA that says a player can't essentially negotiate a "zero buyout" where he just forfeits everything in his contract if the Packers let him go? This is the thing that always amazes me with NBA players that get traded at the deadline and the team they go to has no intention of keeping them and winds up buying them out for a lesser price. They still have to take on some kind of salary hit to allow a disgruntled or washed up player to move on somewhere else. Is there anything in the CBA agreements that prevents a player from just saying they will void their contract or even pay back part of it in order to move on to a better situation?

These guys get paid millions to play a game that most of us would kill to have an ounce of their talent and have the chance to be in their position. I would be OK getting paid at the upper end of pay for what I do for a living to make it through a few miserable years then be able to retire financially sound by the time I was 40. I've made it 18 years with my current employer and if they keep me around at least that or a few more years more without laying me off I will retire a happy person despite the ups and downs I have had with my satisfaction with my job.
 

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This is the kind of crap that as a fan turns me off when pro athletes try to pull this crap. He signed the contract to play for the Packers and while I understand the frustrations he has with the front office but is there anything in the CBA that says a player can't essentially negotiate a "zero buyout" where he just forfeits everything in his contract if the Packers let him go? This is the thing that always amazes me with NBA players that get traded at the deadline and the team they go to has no intention of keeping them and winds up buying them out for a lesser price. They still have to take on some kind of salary hit to allow a disgruntled or washed up player to move on somewhere else. Is there anything in the CBA agreements that prevents a player from just saying they will void their contract or even pay back part of it in order to move on to a better situation?

These guys get paid millions to play a game that most of us would kill to have an ounce of their talent and have the chance to be in their position. I would be OK getting paid at the upper end of pay for what I do for a living to make it through a few miserable years then be able to retire financially sound by the time I was 40. I've made it 18 years with my current employer and if they keep me around at least that or a few more years more without laying me off I will retire a happy person despite the ups and downs I have had with my satisfaction with my job.

It’s a two way street. Is it better to have a disgruntled QB leading your team and paying him 10’s of millions? Or is it better to cut ties and use that money to do other things and have harmony in the org?
 

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It’s a two way street. Is it better to have a disgruntled QB leading your team and paying him 10’s of millions? Or is it better to cut ties and use that money to do other things and have harmony in the org?

Ultimate question. Rodgers has covered up a lot of holes for the past decade but he also iirc could have gone the Brady route of taking a pay cut to get better talent there.

There's been plenty of signs that he's difficult but this thing has been full exposure and it may get to a point where Packer fans won't miss him.
 

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Ultimate question. Rodgers has covered up a lot of holes for the past decade but he also iirc could have gone the Brady route of taking a pay cut to get better talent there.

There's been plenty of signs that he's difficult but this thing has been full exposure and it may get to a point where Packer fans won't miss him.

I'm not saying I would take less money necessarily than what I was worth but Rodgers has no place to ***** about not getting talent when your making almost 34 million a year. There is a price to pay when one player makes that much money. If you want to win you need to be able to work on a deal like Tom Brady did and still does to help bring in more talent. If Rodgers really was all about winning he would've restructured and made less to help them win more. Just my two cents. He is entitled to all that money, so can't really blame him for taking it either.
 

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I'm not saying I would take less money necessarily than what I was worth but Rodgers has no place to ***** about not getting talent when your making almost 34 million a year. There is a price to pay when one player makes that much money. If you want to win you need to be able to work on a deal like Tom Brady did and still does to help bring in more talent. If Rodgers really was all about winning he would've restructured and made less to help them win more. Just my two cents. He is entitled to all that money, so can't really blame him for taking it either.

I can blame him for taking it is if he was upset that there wasn't better talent around him.
 

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I'm not saying I would take less money necessarily than what I was worth but Rodgers has no place to ***** about not getting talent when your making almost 34 million a year. There is a price to pay when one player makes that much money. If you want to win you need to be able to work on a deal like Tom Brady did and still does to help bring in more talent. If Rodgers really was all about winning he would've restructured and made less to help them win more. Just my two cents. He is entitled to all that money, so can't really blame him for taking it either.
It's not on the player to manage the salary cap, though. That's on the team.
But even so, the Packers had plenty of wiggle room to adjust AR's contract to give themselves more cap room this year. Rodgers was due almost 7 million in a roster bonus. The team could have converted it into a signing bonus and spread the cap hit out over the life of his existing contract, and used the savings to go after additional talent. They didn't. The Packers chose to leave it alone and have the roster bonus apply to this year's cap. Why? Because they are most likely going to get rid of him after this season, and they don't want more dead money on the books.
That's fine. That's within the team's rights to do. But their hand has been tipped. But the team's hands weren't entirely prevented from acquiring free agents by AR's contract. They are actively choosing that path to some degree.
 

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Taken from a Packers fan site. In the wake of some of the GB wideouts not showing up for OTAs, one guy is advocating for a team meeting where this is presented:

“ Guys this isn’t anything personal but you’re here to play football, not run for Congress or make the front of People magazine. I don’t want to know your political affiliation and I certainly don’t want to offend anyone with our policy or procedure. If you’ve got a problem? Quit. Put your cleats up here on the desk and there’s the door.
“We love you guys and have enjoyed working with you. You’re each our family. But if you’re personal desires have now risen above what’s best for our team and our family? Then you need to go find another team where players run the show. I can assure you .. do not apply for the US Military.. you will be highly discouraged if you think they will allow you to run the show. Like us, They are interest in 1 thing and 1 thing only. Winning”
We are going to win and if you can put your selfish desires behind you in favor of a team philosophy? We’d love to have you.. and when we reach the top? (And we will reach the top) you don’t even need to tell us we were right. Because YOU were part of our success. Your buy in is integral in our winning culture and we will owe YOU a great thanks”

Meeting Adjourned. The tubs for your equipment and door to our left are for the quitters.

The door to the right to the practice field is for the Winners. We’ve had a winning culture since the 1920’s and we’re not going to stop 100 years later, even if the entire team quits. We’ll rebuild without you”

The poster had many compliments on his suggestion. Some of those fans need a strong dose of reality. I would absolutely love to hear that the Packers were taking this approach. Good effing luck.

Right. In today's entitlement culture, you think that stands a snowball's chance in hell? In Lombardi's day, maybe.

When the player makes many times more than the coach or GM, it only stands to reason they think they can dictate policy. I'm not saying that's correct, or desirable. And frankly I'm disappointed that both Rodgers and the front office have allowed this to go this far. But that's reality.
 
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Screw what is right or wrong for Rogers to do right now. As a Bears fan, the only question I have is where to toss the zippo and a roll of toilet paper to get this thing rolling.

The Bears should work on their own issues. What happens elsewhere won't matter.

As a fan, I can't remember the last time there was stability there. Heck even the '85 team was fragile.
 

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The Bears should work on their own issues. What happens elsewhere won't matter.

As a fan, I can't remember the last time there was stability there. Heck even the '85 team was fragile.

It's pro football where what happens in your division completely DOES matter. If you don't think it does, tell that to the 7-9 Washington division-winner playoff team last year.
 

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It's pro football where what happens in your division completely DOES matter. If you don't think it does, tell that to the 7-9 Washington division-winner playoff team last year.

If the Bears were 7-9 and in the playoffs I would say they're a sh*tty team winning a sh*tty division so since there wasn't improvement internally, it doesn't matter.

Sure they might sell out and pull out a playoff win but that won't last long or mean there's stability.
 

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Guy has been known to be solely about himself for a long time. I was hoping they could bridge this enough to keep Rodgers for one more year and get Love another year to get adjusted as the backup. With Rodgers stubbornness, glad the pack went hard at defense and shoring up the run game. Gives a fighting chance.
 
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