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They haven't been good, early in the game it was a mug the MVP session. (that said Denver just looks like **** outside of the officiating)

I can't believe Jokic didn't get himself ejected early in the 2nd half on a play. Looked like he had enough of the muggings.
 
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He is isn't lying

Pretty extreme up and down.

Whoever just said they need Murray is right. Campazzo was solid in game one but he's strugged just as much as Monte tonight.

Either of them would be better with Murray out there.
 
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Pretty extreme up and down.

Whoever just said they need Murray is right. Campazzo was solid in game one but he's strugged just as much as Monte tonight.

Either of them would be better with Murray out there.

I think Monte gets it back in Denver, certainly cannot get any worse.
 
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Mostly or all subs in for both teams. 3.5 min left. Suns up by 24.
 

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I can't believe Jokic didn't get himself ejected early in the 2nd half on a play. Looked like he had enough of the muggings.

I'll never understand why some MVP level players get insane treatment from the refs and others don't. Jokic definitely isn't officiated any different than some 7 points and 5 rebounds a game player would be, on a given night they'll let the other team play him extremely physical without many calls.

MJ/Kobe/LeBron are on a different level but I never thought Dirk or Duncan were officiated in some 'rock star' sort of way yet Dwayne Wade got every call his entire career as a lesser player than those two. I can't throw Shaq in the discussion because he was simply impossible to officiate. I don't think Kawhi gets anywhere near the calls a player like Wade got and he's just as good attacking the rim and unlike Wade he's a legit great defender instead of just being a good defender because they won't call a foul on him.

I didn't think Derek Rose got very preferential calls from officials during his brief MVP level stint either.
 

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Positive spin on this from ISU perspective is that it's pretty impressive Nader was in the rotation for this Phoenix team before his injury.
Didn't know that. Too bad he's out and we can't see him.

How serious was his knee surgery?
 

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Denver’s only chance is to outscore Suns and I am not sure they can do that with Campazzo and Rivers as starters. Also Denver can’t stop Suns’ p n r no matter if they pick on Jokic or someone else. I thought Denver would try something different defensively in the 2nd game, but it’s more of the same which means they can’t figure it out. I would be shocked if Denver can make a series out of this. It may be 4-0.
 

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Denver’s only chance is to outscore Suns and I am not sure they can do that with Campazzo and Rivers as starters. Also Denver can’t stop Suns’ p n r no matter if they pick on Jokic or someone else. I thought Denver would try something different defensively in the 2nd game, but it’s more of the same which means they can’t figure it out. I would be shocked if Denver can make a series out of this. It may be 4-0.

Barton gave them a glimmer of hope there but he's really inconsistent even when healthy.
 
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Didn't know that. Too bad he's out and we can't see him.

How serious was his knee surgery?

I don't know the extent of his injury but he played very well for his minutes played and was definitely in the rotation rather than just mop up duty.
 

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I'll never understand why some MVP level players get insane treatment from the refs and others don't. Jokic definitely isn't officiated any different than some 7 points and 5 rebounds a game player would be, on a given night they'll let the other team play him extremely physical without many calls.

MJ/Kobe/LeBron are on a different level but I never thought Dirk or Duncan were officiated in some 'rock star' sort of way yet Dwayne Wade got every call his entire career as a lesser player than those two. I can't throw Shaq in the discussion because he was simply impossible to officiate. I don't think Kawhi gets anywhere near the calls a player like Wade got and he's just as good attacking the rim and unlike Wade he's a legit great defender instead of just being a good defender because they won't call a foul on him.

I didn't think Derek Rose got very preferential calls from officials during his brief MVP level stint either.


I just wish games were officiated consistently. I don't care if your MJ, Kobe, Kwame Brown, or Michael Olowokandi. A foul is a foul whenever during the game
 
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Positive spin on this from ISU perspective is that it's pretty impressive Nader was in the rotation for this Phoenix team before his injury.
Didn't know that. Too bad he's out and we can't see him.

How serious was his knee surgery?
I don't know the extent of his injury but he played very well for his minutes played and was definitely in the rotation rather than just mop up duty.
All I could find on Nader: Out since late March with knee injury. Maybe had knee surgery about a month ago (?).
" Chris Paul has struggled with a shoulder contusion throughout this series but he looked just fine during Sunday's matchup. He's listed as probable and should be able to make the cut for Game 5. Abdel Nader is still out as he recovers following arthroscopic surgery on his right knee."
LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns: Injury Report, Predicted Lineups and Starting 5s - June 1st, 2021 | Game 5, 2021 NBA Playoffs (sportskeeda.com)
 

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Wonder if you have to be on the active playoff roster to get a ring? Just curious for Nader should Phoenix win it all.
 

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I'll never understand why some MVP level players get insane treatment from the refs and others don't. Jokic definitely isn't officiated any different than some 7 points and 5 rebounds a game player would be, on a given night they'll let the other team play him extremely physical without many calls.

MJ/Kobe/LeBron are on a different level but I never thought Dirk or Duncan were officiated in some 'rock star' sort of way yet Dwayne Wade got every call his entire career as a lesser player than those two. I can't throw Shaq in the discussion because he was simply impossible to officiate. I don't think Kawhi gets anywhere near the calls a player like Wade got and he's just as good attacking the rim and unlike Wade he's a legit great defender instead of just being a good defender because they won't call a foul on him.

I didn't think Derek Rose got very preferential calls from officials during his brief MVP level stint either.

Refs are human and get caught up in the cult of personality. You mentioned MJ, Kobe, LeBron, and D-Wade - they're not just superstars on the court, but they're personalities away from it as well. Dirk, Duncan Jokic, and to a certain extent Kawhi are all superstars on the court, but don't command the same kind of limelight that the others do. In fact, Tim Duncan was notably a very private person away from the court. Bigger personalities command more attention, and even the ref that tries to be as unbiased as possible can't help but get caught up in it.
 
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According to what I'm seeing online anyone who played for the championship team during the season gets a ring.
 

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According to what I'm seeing online anyone who played for the championship team during the season gets a ring.

I think Nader earned it and Phoenix has a very solid chance. He played 355 minutes this season to THT's 81 regular season minutes last year.

His numbers per game were the best of his four years in virtually every stat through 24 games.
 

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I think Nader earned it and Phoenix has a very solid chance. He played 355 minutes this season to THT's 81 regular season minutes last year.

His numbers per game were the best of his four years in virtually every stat through 24 games.

I'd like if either the jazz or suns come out of the west and could win it. If it weren't for the bulls one or both of these franchises would have a title. Also either team winning would mean a cyclone or in utah's case Cyclones gets a ring.
 
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Denver’s only chance is to outscore Suns and I am not sure they can do that with Campazzo and Rivers as starters. Also Denver can’t stop Suns’ p n r no matter if they pick on Jokic or someone else. I thought Denver would try something different defensively in the 2nd game, but it’s more of the same which means they can’t figure it out. I would be shocked if Denver can make a series out of this. It may be 4-0.
I’m no expert, but I think the only way any team can win is by out scoring their opponent. Can think of a time in NBA history where the team that didn’t outscore their opponent won.
 
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I'd like if either the jazz or suns come out of the west and could win it. If it weren't for the bulls one or both of these franchises would have a title. Also either team winning would mean a cyclone gets a ring.
I'm pulling for Utah, get 2 Cyclones a ring!

Also it's crazy that the Mailman, Stockton, and Hornacek never got a ring.