Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[NoCreativity]

Idk about that.

They make much more geographic sense. Iowa St is better right now in football but they have much better tradition in football and overall have been better in basketball the last 20 or 30 years. The only reason I could remotely see us getting picked over K-State is they want to open up their recruiting further east than Kansas and more into the Midwest than the plains.

 

[mattyheiden]

Nobody gives a fu*k. I’m sure there’s a circle jerk thread on HN you could go to right now.

Strange choice given how little traffic that place gets.

 

[awd4cy]

Strange choice given how little traffic that place gets.

Or Hawk report. Whatever.

 

[BCClone]

Okay you lost me there.

He is kstate first, ISU second.

 

[JP4CY]

They went 11-2 a couple years ago and beat Auburn in the bowl game. They lost to Iowa in Iowa City, but happens yearly it seems

How many noncon P5s in that 11-2 year?

 

[NoCreativity]

Not shocked you are saying this, LOL.

It's hard to swallow but true, they are 6 hours further west than we are. If Okie St goes also they aren't that far away from Oklahoma, Colorado, and Utah.

 

[Beyerball]

I expect Jamie to come out with a statement soon, and I have to believ
e he’s been somewhat prepared for this since the Grant of Rights will expire in a couple of years. I recall him making the statement a few years ago that we needed to get very good at football real soon. He’s going to take care of the program and Do what he can. But I don’t think the BIG will expand anytime soon, so we may wind up rebuilding the Big 12 with two new schools.

GOR expires in 4 years...

 

[werdnamanhill]

He is kstate first, ISU second.

Ah. Well, he can have fun thinking that.

 

[Statefan10]

Maybe. Maybe not.

Either way, us in the pac 12 would be very bad for us.

It’s not exactly ideal, but $$ wise it’s 1000% better than trying to build another AAC conference.

 

[BryceC]

There is nothing in Chicago that compares to the P&L district in KC. Its a horrible city for anything college sports.

My thoughts exactly. Nobody cares and the United Center is in the middle of nowhere.

 

[IcSyU]

You would quit donating and buying season tickets? I wouldn’t.

You can't charge Big 12 prices for AAC quality.

Well, you could, but you'd have an empty stadium.

I don't think people actually fathom how devastating this would be to ISU. Not just athletics but the institution. Iowa State has spent money in the arms race it is counting on getting in the future. OU and TX control that flow of money. If they jump ship I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if 80% of the TV contract value went away. Instead of $35M distributed by the conference it may be $10M. That would make COVID seem like child's play.

 

[deadeyededric]

Rutgers was purely for B1G TV channel eyeballs in NY, that's it.

Exactly. Which is why it makes sense that they would go after a UVA, Virginia, KU, and maybe even a school like Georgia Tech before they would take ISU. ISU adds nothing to the league.

 

[alarson]

They make much more geographic sense. Iowa St is better right now in football but they have much better tradition in football and overall have been better in basketball the last 20 or 30 years. The only reason I could remotely see us getting picked over K-State is they want to open up their recruiting further east than Kansas and more into the Midwest than the plains.

K-state has one coach worth of 'tradition' otherwise they were one of the few programs that managed to be much worse than us over time (we still hold a winning record over them, one of the few teams we can say that against), and that coach is gone.

 

[JP4CY]

It's hard to swallow but true, they are 6 hours further west than we are. If Okie St goes also they aren't that far away from Oklahoma, Colorado, and Utah.

LOL geography and "we."

 

[rochclone]

They make much more geographic sense. Iowa St is better right now in football but they have much better tradition in football and overall have been better in basketball the last 20 or 30 years. The only reason I could remotely see us getting picked over K-State is they want to open up their recruiting further east than Kansas and more into the Midwest than the plains.

The only reason. Not the fact that the PAC-12 values education and we have AAU status versus Kansas State.

 

[mattyheiden]

Okay you lost me there.

KSU is a 4 year JUCO ag school.

 

[alarson]

Exactly. Which is why it makes sense that they would go after a UVA, Virginia, KU, and maybe even a school like Georgia Tech before they would take ISU. ISU adds nothing to the league.

Worth noting in this the math has changed since 10 years ago.

Back then the math was all about grabbing cable footprints to charge $X per sub.

Now its more back to actual numbers of people watching- produce a good product and you'll drive eyeballs. That's better for ISU now.

 

[Gunnerclone]

ISU to the Big 1G is never happening. ISU can't add more than they'd take away from the pot.

The only realistic scenario for ISU is the Big 12 continues in its current form. OU and TX leaving would relinquish power 5 status. The TV contract would fall through the floor. The tickets and donations would fall through the floor. ISU would be absolutely devastated.

It's completely disingenuous to call ISU a top 10 football program. It's one of the worst programs in college football history. If flashes in the pan mattered Boise State would be playing in a big boy conference.

At some point there’s going to be passengers to make up the numbers. If a league like the Big 12 collapsed that’s a content hole that needs to be filled and that live TV money is going somewhere. CFB is officially an arms race now. If you’re standing still you’re losing.

 

[JP4CY]

KSU is a 4 year JUCO ag school.

Shots fired @jereseib

 

[Beyerball]

Kansas St would get a Pac-12 invite before Iowa St.

LMAO....this is laughable. Kstate academics would keep them out of even the discussion with the PAC.