Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[BallSoHard4Cy]

The PAC-12 would be smart to extend offers to ISU, OSU, KU, and KSU/TTU. If you're ISU, that is probably your best option.

It will also kill recruiting and suck for fans (11am home kickoffs for every home game, loss of whatever rivalries we still had, etc.), but a slow death is preferable to a quick one.

 

[2speedy1]

Didn't Nebraska lose their AAU membership and they still let them in.

The lost it after they were accepted, and got into a lot of hot water for it. I believe have lost some money from the conference for it too. It has been a bad stain on the conference and it is still in the conference bye-laws that AAU membership is a requirement to join.

 

[BCClone]

Minnesota
Non P5 schedule
Fresno State
Georgia Southern

Big wins:
Penn State
Wisconsin
Auburn

Iowa
Non P5 schedule
Middle Tennessee
Miami (OH)

Big wins:
Minnesota
Iowa State
USC

ISU
Non P5 schedule
UNI (FCS)
LA-Monroe

Big wins:
Baylor
Texas

Oklahoma is not a big win to you. Interesting

 

[JP4CY]

Just facts. That’s all. Some people don’t deal well with those?

You sure dont.

 

[cycloneworld]

Yuck. But these things don’t get this far down the road without being a done deal. RIP Big 12.

 

[Thorongil Clone]

You're out of your depth here. Isn’t there a children’s thread that’s more your speed?

Get the hell out. You have no business here.

 

[enisthemenace]

He is kstate first, ISU second.

 

[IcSyU]

The exit fees they would have to pay to the conference would be $70-80M....and more since it appears that neither school provided the required 12 hours notice before starting negotiations with the SEC. (per Big12 charter) It would at least put a dent in the total or service the debt for a while...


From Surlyhorns.com:

<<so basically Texas and OU have 12 hours to inform the conference that they are talking to anyone about leaving and failure to do so gets them removed from voting on any conference business.....they also have to reject those offers in a manner acceptable to the conference or they cannot vote on conference business

and the exit fee is 2 years prior revenues and there are additional penalties for trying to get out of paying that or doing things that cause further damage

if Texas and OU are in fact talking to others and they have not given the required notice there are a lot of actions the Big 12 an take and I do not think that would look good in any forthcoming lawsuit

Texas and OU are probably going to have to pay a lot of money to leave especially if they have not done things properly I don't think this will be a case of getting the exit fee cut in half or getting it down to 75% like Maryland did.....all the more so if there was no 12 hour notice

this could be anywhere from $60 million to $90+ million for Texas and OU to leave depending on the amounts paid by the conference the prior two years and how much anyone and everyone wants to fight in court.......which I think the other 8 members of the Big 12 will be up for a pretty big fight

the Big 12 can also refuse to televise games of the members leaving if they are in violation of the contract>>

Let's say they both leave and each pay the conference $100M. That's $25M per remaining school. That's at best going to cover you for one year of TV revenue lost. Then what?

 

[mattyheiden]

Not sure if you noticed but Geography doesn't matter anymore. A small school in Omaha is in the Big East.

It works because basketball is their main revenue sport. Creighton and Marquette are similar in a lot of ways.

 

[JP4CY]

You're out of your depth here. Isn’t there a children’s thread that’s more your speed?

Yikes

 

[2speedy1]

Were approved and then lost it. I also think OU is NOT an AAU.

yes, I was thinking they were but now I am pretty sure they arent, I think it is only KU Tex and ISU left in the Big 12 with AAU.

 

[JP4CY]

It works because basketball is their main revenue sport. Creighton and Marquette are similar in a lot of ways.

You don't say.

 

[JP4CY]

@BCClone see why I made that comparison?

 

[awd4cy]

Are we in a better position than 10 years ago? Yes, but anything short of a Big 10 invite if this conference folds we will be in much much worse shape. I also don’t think the Big 10 would add us.

 

[NoCreativity]

ISU is superior to KSU in every aspect of realignment to every conference, period. 6 hour drive time means nothing in a plane.

Lol, based on what? Just because we have Matt Cambpell now doesn't mean in the grand scheme of things we are a better option than some other Big 12 schools. They will take everything about the school and athletic department into account, not who has the best football coach the last 5 years.

I guess if they are looking for academics then Iowa St will get the nod, but if you compare the recent history of the 2 schools I don't see how Iowa St is a more attractive option.

They have a bigger stadium, facilities are probably the same, towns and schools are about the same size, fan bases are similar.

And like I said before, they make much more geographic sense. Central Kansas pretty much looks like the rest of the western part of the U.S.
Ames looks nothing like that geographically. The Big 10 makes much more sense on every level.

My honest opinion is the Big 12 survives in a different. Might not look quite the same but it's not a doomsday scenario either like 90% of people on here are predicting.

 

[loyalsons4evertrue]

I regret making the mistake of going to Iowa's rival's message board...those guys are quite something over there..

 

[04clone]

The PAC-12 would be smart to extend offers to ISU, OSU, KU, and KSU/TTU. If you're ISU, that is probably your best option.

It will also kill recruiting and suck for fans (11am home kickoffs for every home game, loss of whatever rivalries we still had, etc.), but a slow death is preferable to a quick one.

Why would the PAC-12 want 11 am kickoffs (9 am local time for most of their schools)?

 

[mattyheiden]

Oklahoma is not a big win to you. Interesting

His question was directed at the non P5 schedule which contributed to Minnesota’s record during their 11 win season. Which was in 2019. Did ISU beat OU in ‘19?

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Exactly. Which is why it makes sense that they would go after a UVA, Virginia, KU, and maybe even a school like Georgia Tech before they would take ISU. ISU adds nothing to the league.

How many people have dropped cable tv over the last 2 years, millions of households. The big 10 plan of getting one team per state to be able to charge everyone in that state money to get BTN is a dying model. The new model will be how many people will want to stream your games not how many people live in your state.

So schools like Rutgers and Maryland which were great under the old system now become a drag on the conference, because they have small fan bases for football.
If the Big 10 can pry UVA, or UNC from the ACC great for them, but I just do not see it happening.
ISU will never be the leagues first, second or third choice, but when its all said and done, we will be the only school academically and athletically that fills their needs. EIU fans will have a cow over it, but in the end unless they can pry one of the ACC teams away, that is the path we are heading.

 

[BCClone]

@BCClone see why I made that comparison?

His head is buried up kirks racist rear and is a yes man.