Kansas to Big 10?

FriendlySpartan

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The BIG is currently likely in negotiations with FOX for 2023 new deal... It is estimated that the BIG total package will amount to around $800 Million a year or $57Mil per school..at 14 teams.

FOX does not assume all 14 teams are worth $57 mil annually. tOSU is prob worth $120mil a year...etc.. Same for every conference really.

But as a collective group total is likely around $800 mil. Now......

If the BIG adds say ISU/KU...prior to this new deal it is not going to still be $800 Mil it will be prob $850 Mil. ISU/KU doesnt add ZERO....LMAO. This is a low estimate for ISU/KU btw IMO.

$850 Mil with 16 teams is around $53mil.

So in theory that is $4mil less per BIG team. But wait.. ISU/KU will receive a partial share for let's say 7 years (see Nebraska, Rutgers etc..)...Half a share is $26.5 Mil per year for ISU and KU each.

Or...$800 mil left for remaining 14 teams roughly.. ZERO net loss for the BIG for first 7 years..

Add to that it is possible ISU/KU offer to provide the BIG with the Tx/Ou exit fees and penalites and you likely have ISU/KU not costing the BIG anything extra for a decade..

If the future is streaming and subscriptions which are likely based on fan enthusiasm etc.. Then adding ISU fball and KU bball is only going to add to the BIG a decade from now..

Unlike Rutgers and Maryland and several other BIG schools IMO.
These numbers are way way off. Big ten schools not named rutgers or maryland made about 55 mil per school on the old media contract. That number isn't increasing only by 2 million per school under the new 2023 contract. Contract talks are for around 80mil+ per school for the new rights deal. Its this number that makes adding california schools to the big ten more reasonable for AD's to swallow the travel costs. Obv no deal is done but to suggest that the new media deal will only ad 2mil per school is not based in reality
 

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I don't think anyone is saying the only ones who watched the Fiesta Bowl was because of Oregon. They may be saying no one watched it, which is sort of true.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2021/01/cfp-semifinal-ratings-rose-sugar-espn-viewership/

"The Iowa State-Oregon Fiesta Bowl drew 6.68 million earlier in the day, down 21% from the last non-semifinal edition two years ago (LSU-UCF: 8.47M) and the least-watched edition of the game on record."
To look at YOY bowl ratings in isolation is very deceiving and a lazy comparison when being used to justify does X or Y school draw eyes.

In the comparison of 2020 vs 2018 Fiesta Bowl ratings the big driver for strong UCF v LSU ratings (8.47M) was the Fiesta Bowl was immediately before the Rose Bowl. During that same 1pm window PSU v. Kentucky drew 7.71M fans and the Hawkeye vs Mississippi St game that started at noon drew 3.26M fans.

So in 2018 there were 19.4M fans watching 3 bowl games before the Rose Bowl between OSU & Wash which drew $16.78M viewers.

The lead in for the ISU v Oregon Fiesta Bowl (6.68M) were Miss v Indiana Outback (4.11M) and UK v NC State Gator Bowl (2.71M).

So sure the ISUvOregon Fiesta Bowl drew less, but there were far fewer viewers watching football that afternoon.
 
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There are so many bowl games now where the stadiums are mostly empty. It's sad. But whoever sponsoring it pays out and that is the name of the game.
 
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It was a video sharing app like CAMEO, where you pay a "celebrity" to video chat with you, and it was for Spencer Petras. Like the app was promoting it and their introductory message was "Spencer Petras from the Iowa State Buckeyes" and they had a photo of him in an Iowa uniform..

Just absolutely all over the place lol.
 

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You need people to actually watch the games to get advertisers though. IF 20 mill. people live close to Rutgers, but none of them watch, how much is that worth?
Even if say 5% of that 20 million watch that game it's still going to be more than 90% of the Des Moines area watching an ISU game.
 

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College football ratings in 2020 were down across the board...alot. I can't figure out why that is given the Pandemic and people prob having more time on their hands etc..

So odd that sports TV ratings were not great last year..
People found different hobbies in lockdown.
 

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The Big Ten is going to add us for Wrestling? Keep in mind we have people on here who think Kansas is stupid for thinking the Big 10 cares about their basketball program.

Well it would be a combination of AAU status, Football, Basketball, and Wrestling. Iowa State is actually pretty good(normally) at a lot of sports. The problem is we’ve been normally not very good at football until recently.

It’s a long shot still, but other than being a blue blood powerhouse Iowa State checks the rest of the B1G’s boxes.
 
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Well it would be a combination of AAU status, Football, Basketball, and Wrestling. Iowa State is actually pretty good(normally) at a lot of sports. The problem is we’ve been normally not very good at football until recently.

It’s a long shot still, but other than being a blue blood powerhouse Iowa State checks the rest of the B1G’s boxes.
ISU checks all the boxes the B1G values
 

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Here's a good article from Darren Rovell.

"Rutgers attracts no interest in the New York market. They don't rate enough to matter."


And this is from 2011, where they went 9-4 and followed it up with going 9-4 in 2012. And they fell off a cliff.
 
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Well it would be a combination of AAU status, Football, Basketball, and Wrestling. Iowa State is actually pretty good(normally) at a lot of sports. The problem is we’ve been normally not very good at football until recently.

It’s a long shot still, but other than being a blue blood powerhouse Iowa State checks the rest of the B1G’s boxes.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say that nothing matters but football when talking about everyone but Iowa State. Are we different? Is there a reason why they will look at ISU wrestling but not KU basketball?
 
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