Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

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The funny part is the talking about cherry picking and then using those numbers. If you understand the media deals and how the conferences work and what they did with the numbers, those are the most cherry picked numbers you could get.
Much more important than 'cherry picking', is 'trending'. Here's a lesson my father taught me which gives great insight into the type of person one is. If you buy 1 share each in two companies and assess one year later. Do you sell the one that doubled or the one that went in half?
 

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Well, it looks like the Big 10 and SEC are really going to distance themselves from the ACC and Pac 12 when it comes to tv dollar earnings. As long as this situation exists, then all of college football is unstable, not just the angry 8. Will FSU and Clemson be okay with 33-35 mil a year while Northwestern is getting 65 to 70 mil? Will USC, Oregon, and Washington be okay at 33 mil while Bama and LSU are at 70 mil?
A truly sad thing happening to America is our ignorance to extend 'credit'. We throw these enormous numbers around without taking into account the 'liability' of those numbers. I maintain, the new SEC (as it currently stands [with Clemson and FSU]) will not have a 'return' for that amount of investment. Especially, if the CFP and the rest of CFB restrict their popularity proportionately. There is a power play afoot which MUST go ESPN's way. If not, look to Disney to dump ESPN and ESPN filing for federal protection. Somewhere out there in some room were people with big egos who got together and formulated this new tier of CFB. I'll be closely following this for an opportunity to 'short' Disney.
 

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Much more important than 'cherry picking', is 'trending'. Here's a lesson my father taught me which gives great insight into the type of person one is. If you buy 1 share each in two companies and assess one year later. Do you sell the one that doubled or the one that went in half?

Will Rogers said, “Buy stocks that go up. If they don’t go up don’t buy them.” Why did you buy a stock that lost 50%? :)
 
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Ding ding. There's a reason one went up and one went down. So, sell the bad one.

I thought there was a reason some people are rich whereas I am just “well to due”.
Sorry didn’t mean to derail the thread, as I took a poor stab at humor.
 

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I know you’re probably not a numbers driven person or deal with facts but the data is there. Probably hard to see that if you spent your whole life in Iowa tho.

Rutgers has a following just big enough to get BTN on NYC-area cable tiers and no larger. In a couple decades after cord-cutting is more prominent and streaming is even bigger, Rutgers will cost the other B1G universities money. It was a great short-term and good medium-term play. It’s delusional to think the Rutgers move made long-term sense, but who knows it the B1G will even exist in its current form in 2040 or whatever anyway.
 

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Here is a little piece about Big Ten finances and the payouts Rutgers receives


The B1G is set to renegotiate their TV deals in a few years, but current projections have the league distributing $69.2 million to each school by 2029.

Rutgers will not receive a full share until 2027. The school, one of the most subsidized athletic departments in the country, took out two loans against future conference earnings of nearly $48 million (on top of other loan support from the school itself).

In the world of conference realignment.........there is no bigger winner than Rutgers.
 

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The 64 team Super Conference has always been my expectation. The only question I had was when? Now with the NIL becoming a thing as the NCAA continues to lose power it has speed up the likelyhood it wlll be sooner than later.
ISU is in much better position to be included in the the top 64 today than 10 years ago which is a credit to the AD and Campbell (even Fred). ISU has the opportunity the next 2 years to add to the brand and become even more valuable to THE 1 conference. As Campbell expressed just win and there will be a seat for the Cyclones.
 

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The 64 team Super Conference has always been my expectation. The only question I had was when? Now with the NIL becoming a thing as the NCAA continues to lose power it has speed up the likelyhood it wlll be sooner than later.
ISU is in much better position to be included in the the top 64 today than 10 years ago which is a credit to the AD and Campbell (even Fred). ISU has the opportunity the next 2 years to add to the brand and become even more valuable to THE 1 conference. As Campbell expressed just win and there will be a seat for the Cyclones.
There are currently 66 P5 teams (this includes ND). So which current P5 school bows out? Baylor?
 

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This seems like a likely outcome and should include enough teams and regions that interest should remain high. However, if 2 of these conferences' teams are making 30-40 million more per year in media rights than the other two conferences' teams, it's pretty much creating a 32 team league. Let's hope that schools like Alabama and Ohio State understand that they need to keep this somewhat equitable so that they don't alienate over the half of the country. We already know that Texas would be fine if there were just one team in the country.
 

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This seems like a likely outcome and should include enough teams and regions that interest should remain high. However, if 2 of these conferences' teams are making 30-40 million more per year in media rights than the other two conferences' teams, it's pretty much creating a 32 team league. Let's hope that schools like Alabama and Ohio State understand that they need to keep this somewhat equitable so that they don't alienate over the half of the country. We already know that Texas would be fine if there were just one team in the country.
If the Networks don't have money, or a shrinking amount of money because of cord cutting, then how can they afford to pay some of these leagues even more money than they are now? And to your point, how healthy would college football be if there are two leagues making 20 plus mil more per team? I don't think that would work. Need a governing body, 64 teams, each school gets the same amount of tv payout.
 
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There are currently 66 P5 teams (this includes ND). So which current P5 school bows out? Baylor?

Honestly (selfishly) I am only concerned that ISU is part of the Super Conference not the details of the few teams that get relegated... 10 years ago ISU was definitely at risk of being one of those left out.
 
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