Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks

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Nobody is expanding right now or in a couple weeks. The Pac 12 is enjoying posturing as a power player right now. Everyone is playing this as slowly as possible because they have nothing to lose. Pac 12 and ACC can act like big boys for 3-4 years, SEC is the SEC, and nobody really gives a **** what happens to the Big 12. Big 10 can use the Pac 12 and ACC to oppose its only rival, the SEC, knowing that the Pac 12 and ACC will do whatever they can to stay at the cool kids table.

I do hope this alliance is a first step in everyone taking a step back and realizing this is ruining the game that millions of Americans love, similar to the reaction to the European soccer super league. It's too bad that they didn't realize that before relegating eight schools and fanbases with over a century of shared history in some cases. But even all of that seems too optimistic.
 

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Well that, and there is potential pending litigation

Well...you'd think he'd be out beating the drum of how this action has damaged the conference and its programs. The more he can highlight and expose the collaboration that was going on....the tortious interference...the higher the potential settlement rises. He's not doing that after initially coming out like an angry wolverine. I'd conclude from that that he received some sort of new information that changed his approach pretty dramatically. Granted, I'm drawing this inference from incomplete information...as are we all...but I think its safe to say that Bowlsby was given some important information that we don't have. Information that changed his tactics significantly.
 
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Assuming you're talking about the Big 10, they don't really have a choice. The schools they'd like to add don't currently want to join (or can't) so they'll wait until that changes.

Which schools and why?
 

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Have you been to Manhattan?
People who write posts like this must have never been there or if they did all that remains in the cranium is getting beat. Sorry, but it's just a very ignorant post.

The city of Manhattan is once again the No. 2 college town in America, according to Livability.com.


"I love the prairie and the plains. Northern Kansas looks like something out of the old West. Like Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call could have run their Lonesome Dove cattle drive smack through the middle of. Then when you start going east on I-70, you quickly hit the Flint Hills, with rock formations and beautiful trees. Which leads you to Manhattan, a Norman Rockwell type of town. And late October was a grand day to be there. You know all the color we missed out on this autumn because of the summer drought? It’s still in Manhattan. Gorgeous trees and hills." Barry Trammel, The Oklahoman
 

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I imagine the alliance is more about poaching schools before everyone has a chance to do their research. Can't have anyone else pulling more shady **** like what started this whole mess.
 

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Which schools and why?

Well I'm not in the Big 10 offices so I have no idea. I think you could make reasonable assumptions about who they might be interested in (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, North Carolina, Virginia, Ga Tech, Clemson)

My point is, if they were getting serious interest from schools they were really interested in, you wouldn't be getting all the leaks about these three conferences not expanding.
 
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People who write posts like this must have never been there or if they did all that remains in the cranium is getting beat. Sorry, but it's just a very ignorant post.

The city of Manhattan is once again the No. 2 college town in America, according to Livability.com.


"I love the prairie and the plains. Northern Kansas looks like something out of the old West. Like Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call could have run their Lonesome Dove cattle drive smack through the middle of. Then when you start going east on I-70, you quickly hit the Flint Hills, with rock formations and beautiful trees. Which leads you to Manhattan, a Norman Rockwell type of town. And late October was a grand day to be there. You know all the color we missed out on this autumn because of the summer drought? It’s still in Manhattan. Gorgeous trees and hills." Barry Trammel, The Oklahoman
And I thought we could put lipstick on a pig. I used to think Nebraska was the worst drive you could experience. Then I drive through Kansas to go to Colorado... Awful.
 

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I imagine the alliance is more about poaching schools before everyone has a chance to do their research. Can't have anyone else pulling more shady **** like what started this whole mess.

I think they'd at least like to know the full impact NIL will have on the sport
 

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People who write posts like this must have never been there or if they did all that remains in the cranium is getting beat. Sorry, but it's just a very ignorant post.

The city of Manhattan is once again the No. 2 college town in America, according to Livability.com.


"I love the prairie and the plains. Northern Kansas looks like something out of the old West. Like Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call could have run their Lonesome Dove cattle drive smack through the middle of. Then when you start going east on I-70, you quickly hit the Flint Hills, with rock formations and beautiful trees. Which leads you to Manhattan, a Norman Rockwell type of town. And late October was a grand day to be there. You know all the color we missed out on this autumn because of the summer drought? It’s still in Manhattan. Gorgeous trees and hills." Barry Trammel, The Oklahoman

Only an Oklahoman could think Manhattan is gorgeous for its "trees and hills".

Manhattan is a fine place, surly.
 

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People who write posts like this must have never been there or if they did all that remains in the cranium is getting beat. Sorry, but it's just a very ignorant post.

The city of Manhattan is once again the No. 2 college town in America, according to Livability.com.


"I love the prairie and the plains. Northern Kansas looks like something out of the old West. Like Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call could have run their Lonesome Dove cattle drive smack through the middle of. Then when you start going east on I-70, you quickly hit the Flint Hills, with rock formations and beautiful trees. Which leads you to Manhattan, a Norman Rockwell type of town. And late October was a grand day to be there. You know all the color we missed out on this autumn because of the summer drought? It’s still in Manhattan. Gorgeous trees and hills." Barry Trammel, The Oklahoman
Tanners Bar is over rated.
 

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And I thought we could put lipstick on a pig. I used to think Nebraska was the worst drive you could experience. Then I drive through Kansas to go to Colorado... Awful.

The KKK vibe is much stronger in Kansas than Nebraska. Kansas and Oklahoma are a little too gothic and angry for my tastes.
 
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My hope is that this puts pressure on the big 10 to make a move but if not I pray the PAC 12 expands and makes the smart choice to include us. Rabid fan base + new and improved facilities + growing alumni base should be more than enough.
 

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These have overtaken game thread as the worst of the worst. Everybody is either high on crack or down on meth, nowhere in between it seems.
They remind me of your favorite news paper reporter.
 
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I think Clark is probably right that the Big Ten wants to add from ACC and ND so they will be patient, and that the idea of inviting just the marquee teams of the Pac to join the Big Ten is far fetched. I don't think invites are coming for KU and ISU unless it's just one to be #16 to ND's #15.

So let's say the Pac feels confident in that and knows that their 12 members will not be poached or that even 1-4 marquee members won't be poached...even that overconfident thinking still leaves them as the lowest payout major conference (other than possibly new look big 12) that is looking to shrink even more.

How can they possibly expand in any way with B10/SEC off the table and ACC far fetched even when ACC GoR is up?

They either stay where they are or teams like OKState, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech and Kansas State are absolutely the best options they have to grow to keep up. They already have the mountain regions that have population or are growing in population. Central time zone is the only option. What are the best central time zone adds? The non-religious Big 12 schools minus WVU.
 

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