Yep. I was thinking USC, UCLA, and AZ schools. The time zone expansion, market and already better contract (yes it'll be re negotiated) will, very likely, be better than the downgraded already bad P12 contract.
IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.
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I've quit listening to Miller and Condon. I like Ken because I do feel like he is pretty unbiased but Trent has been down right giddy about all of this and I can't handle it.
I'd agree with better options, but not better options to make the CFP. Which we shouldn't ignore.
MEN'S SPORT OFFERINGS, BIG 12 and BIG TEN
The Big 12 sanctions 10 sports for men. Of those 10, here are the participation numbers:
9 - OU, OSU, TCU, UT
8 - BU, TTU
7 - ISU, KU, KSU
6 - WVU
Taking those same 10 sports in the Big Ten:
10 - IND, MICH, MSU, OHST, PSU, PUR
9 - ILL, NEB, WIS
8 - IOWA, MINN, RUT
7 - NW
6 - MD
This comparison does not include gymnastics (6 B1G teams), hockey (6 B1G), soccer (9 B1G + WVU), or lacrosse (5 B1G).
The Big 12 sanctions 10 sports for men. Of those 10, here are the participation numbers:
9 - OU, OSU, TCU, UT
8 - BU, TTU
7 - ISU, KU, KSU
6 - WVU
Taking those same 10 sports in the Big Ten:
10 - IND, MICH, MSU, OHST, PSU, PUR
9 - ILL, NEB, WIS
8 - IOWA, MINN, RUT
7 - NW
6 - MD
This comparison does not include gymnastics (6 B1G teams), hockey (6 B1G), soccer (9 B1G + WVU), or lacrosse (5 B1G).
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My opinion is the PAC contract is bad, but it's bad because the underlying product isn't valuable. And it isn't valuable because people don't watch the games. ISUs viewership on regular season ABC/FOX/ESPN was better than even USC and Oregon last year for the same types of games. Even take out the UT and OU games and ISU is 84 and 89% of those two teams, and well above the other such PAC games on average. Some of that is a statement about how ISU is more valuable than people think, but it's also a statement about the relatively low value and interest in the PAC. As a comparison, Iowa's viewership in those types of games was less than 30% of Ohio St. and less than 40% than PSU, Michigan and Wisconsin.
The problem with the PAC is that the premier names don't get the huge viewership flagship teams in the conference need to pull, and the mid- and lower-tier teams don't draw well either.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't you an advocate of the P12 absorbing much of the R8? And, if so, wouldn't the B12 contract be a better one to build off of?
I'll wait for your math. What we do know is the P12 $$$ < B12 $$$ (w/OuT). So unless you can provide some solid numbers for OuT being a better draw than say USC/UCLA/AZ/ASU in an expanded time zone market, I'm left unconvinced. Again, not to be pounding THIS solution, I'd much prefer a 'low buy-out' invite to the B1G. But everyone is saying P12 absorb R8. All I'm saying is an aggressive business person would be doing it the other way around.
Correct me if I'm wrong. This iron clad alliance did not include the B12. Furthermore, from what I've read it means they won't poach from each other. Right?
Many “insiders” on Twitter, where nothing but the truth is told, expect the Big 12 to expand..
We’ve heard we are going to the Big 10
Or maybe the Pac 12
Or the Big 12 is expanding
In other words, nobody knows ****
We’ve heard we are going to the Big 10
Or maybe the Pac 12
Or the Big 12 is expanding
In other words, nobody knows ****
That was before this all blew up. Looks like we will have kegs in the concession stands soon and a major casino smack dab in the middle of the Pollard and Busch Light District.
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I think this agreement is two things, they won't steal from each other (ie USC to the B1G, UVA to B1G) and they're in agreement the SEC as a whole is evil. I don't think they care if OuT pays up.
I would bet to say that there would be some drunk women on them, especially when we play Iowa.
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