Jared’s hot take on the FART

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Just win. The only poll that matters doesn't start until November when this game will be a distant memory.

Campbell doesn't run up the score (plus he and Farley get along really well because they're pretty much the same guy) and UNI plays a style that isn't real conducive to running it up against them.

Iowa State could be incredibly impressive and win 28-10. It's just how these two match up.

If Iowa State wanted to get creative and really exploit mismatches they would absolutely boat race UNI. Matt isn't going to do that though, he is going to play a very generic and conservative game. With that being said, we are built to play that way this year and it is going to be a long afternoon for the Panthers.
 

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Jared’s hot take: I’d like to see ISU get the ball first and go on a 6 minute drive and just give them death by a thousand cuts all day.

BETTER IDEA: If ISU wants to make the playoff, we need to win every game by as much as possible. We need style points, we need huge stats and hype. I’d like to see us score as quickly and as much as possible. If it comes down to two 1 loss teams battling for a final final playoff spot we need to be the more hyped team if we’re going up against UGA, OU, etc.

I agree, this absolutely matters. If it comes down to ISU vs a "brand" school they'll throw up every excuse to keep us out, and we shouldn't give them any more ammunition.

I don't think Campbell should adjust game plans or change who we are for the sake of running up scores, but nor should he take his foot off the gas as he tends to do when we're up.
 

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You don't always have to win by 50+ points to show an a** kicking. I think we run a game plan like we did against WVU / Oregon and just tell UNI "stop us". I don't think they can and that style will end up in a game like 38-7 er so if things are clean. The time of possession will be so lopsided that UNI will press, make mistakes, and the game will get out of control.
You've nailed it. This is CMC's M.O. as coach and the culture he wants instilled. Crush the other teams spirit, even if you aren't setting the scoreboard on fire. People want style, well winning with dominant ball control and defense is a style. It may not be as sexy or flashy as the early adopters of spread offense 10-15 years ago, but it is just as effective and should do the trick of getting us notoriety from the playoff committee so long as games are being won and not lost.
 

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Guys, I know it’s cool to you to “not care about style points”. I have no problem with you being that kind of Edgelord in the past. I implore you to look at the big picture. There is more at stake than just a season here.

I honestly don't think style points matter here. That only matters in regard to the playoff and IMO, the only way we make the playoff is by going undefeated or only losing to OU in a close game on the road. A 13-1 ISU team with only a close loss to OU will make the playoff this year, no matter what we do to UNI.
 
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Oklahoma and Texas are still in the Big 12 this year. The Big 12 team that runs the table and goes undefeated will have a seat at the table regardless of how they win. Yes, even if it's Iowa State.
 

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You've nailed it. This is CMC's M.O. as coach and the culture he wants instilled. Crush the other teams spirit, even if you aren't setting the scoreboard on fire. People want style, well winning with dominant ball control and defense is a style. It may not be as sexy or flashy as the early adopters of spread offense 10-15 years ago, but it is just as effective and should do the trick of getting us notoriety from the playoff committee so long as games are being won and not lost.
Yep! As long as this game isn't a 10-14 point victory I don't think it matters if we win by 3+ TD's or 5+ TD's, especially if the stats show an absolute handling. Like the TTU game might've been the most strangling game we played all year last year and we didn't crush them on the scoreboard. They literally couldn't move the ball against us. Yeah we only won by 16, but they also scored 8 of their 15 points in the 4th against our second string guys, and we actually did lift our foot off the gas.

I 100% don't think we'll let up this year, but we're also not going to change our style to score more points. If we throw the ball downfield more against UNI I think that's because we've found a weakness in their defense or because that's now a strength in our game.
 

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Guys, I know it’s cool to you to “not care about style points”. I have no problem with you being that kind of Edgelord in the past. I implore you to look at the big picture. There is more at stake than just a season here.

I am with you all the way on this -- HOWEVER....

Running up the score implies keeping the starter's in until the last couple of minutes and doing double-reverses to score TDs.

Campbell won't do that -- HOWEVER...

I think ISU is good enough to roll over UNI. Starters come out majority of the second half and ISU's back ups still have no problems handling UNI.

I may be in the minority, but I think ISU rolls.
 

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Interesting, but I think balance of strong 5-6 yards per play all day with a dose of honesty plays. That won't equate to a 6 minute drive, but will set a consistent tone. Which, in the end, will be just as impressive.
 

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Iowa would have made they playoff if MSU didn’t stomp them in the championship. If we go 11-1 with a big 12 championship we are in. No questions asked.
 

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Iowa would have made they playoff if MSU didn’t stomp them in the championship. If we go 11-1 with a big 12 championship we are in. No questions asked.

Stomp them? MSU was on the ropes and had to fight for their lives for the go ahead score at the end.

11-1 with a B12 championship would not be a guarantee if there's 4 other teams in the same boat that have better history.

That might go a long ways for the realignment stuff (or not).
 
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Bigger question is what do I do about streaming the game? it's on ESECPN the Ocho EABOD cuckville betas +.
 

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I agree, this absolutely matters. If it comes down to ISU vs a "brand" school they'll throw up every excuse to keep us out, and we shouldn't give them any more ammunition.

I don't think Campbell should adjust game plans or change who we are for the sake of running up scores, but nor should he take his foot off the gas as he tends to do when we're up.
I think you guys are overvaluing this. ISU was one of, if not the highest ranked two-loss team where we got beat by Louisiana. In 2019 ISU was initially the highest two-loss team in the CFP ranking after an OT win vs. mediocre UNI.

In the end the style points in this game are going to be dwarfed by the results vs. Iowa, OU, UT, Okie St., and the CCG.

Style points do matter. But the difference in winning 31-14 or 77-0 vs. UNI in week 1 is going to be non-existent by week 10.
 

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I think you guys are overvaluing this. ISU was one of, if not the highest ranked two-loss team where we got beat by Louisiana. In 2019 ISU was initially the highest two-loss team in the CFP ranking after an OT win vs. mediocre UNI.

In the end the style points in this game are going to be dwarfed by the results vs. Iowa, OU, UT, Okie St., and the CCG.

Style points do matter. But the difference in winning 31-14 or 77-0 vs. UNI in week 1 is going to be non-existent by week 10.
Yes, it will help ISU more to have fewer nailbiters throughout the season than it will to blow out a team rather than just have a comfortable win in game 1.