Fair enough. I guess I am still in the bitter phase of acceptance. Sorry about that.
Expansion candidates that made the cut in 2016
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Fair enough. I guess I am still in the bitter phase of acceptance. Sorry about that.
I guess I am biased against CSU as a member just from my time living in CO. I can't express just how little anyone cared. I don't think people in Iowa, maybe because there are no pro sports, can grasp what an absolute non-factor college sports are there. There can't be a rivalry when only one side even cares or knows there's a game.
I have always been a CFB fanatic, so when I moved to Co. Springs back when Fisher DeBerry was toward the end of his career I expected he would be a big deal and Air Force football would be big. Just non-existent interest.
A lot of people probably remember going to play CU in basketball with like 3-4,000 people in the arena. That's the general energy of college sports in the state in general, and with CSU it's even worse. The gulf between big brother (CU) and little brother (CSU) is MASSIVE. Then consider that nobody GAF about CU sports.
Also, the Big 12 probably wants to be careful in expansion. The idea that the PAC or ACC are going to carry on as-is doesn't seem like a good prediction. Those conferences are USC and Clemson away from collapsing. Hard to imagine those two rolling along making garbage media money. The landscape could change drastically in a couple of years.
Boise Idaho is growing like crazy. But tune in to one of their random night games in October and you'll usually see an unimpressive crowd. In 2019 they were bragging about their ~34,000 average attendance. As we all know, published attendance and actual fannies in the seats are two different things. This is after multiple years of being a top 25 team. The school doesn't seem to have a committed alumni base. I'm not surprised the Big XII left them off the list in 2016. Agree with others who have posted similar concerns about Colorado State. Certain parts of the country just don't care about college sports that much. Those Mountain West schools are not the answer because getting them into a re-configured Big XII won't change their apathy.
This is why BYU is a no brainer. Their stadium is slightly bigger than ours and their attendance is right up there with ours, and they are about the only expansion candidate that can say that. That isn't counting their pretty good TV viewership numbers.
I really am starting to wonder if CMC would want Cincy in the conference.. Several posters have already said this.. But we are pulling A TON of talent already out of the state. Introducing more competition may not be a good idea
On the other hand.. Adding UCF and USF would raise similar concerns in central and south Florida. But I'd argue that state is already heavily scouted by everyone. Being able to have recruits parents drive to a game could be an awesome selling point
On the other hand.. Adding UCF and USF would raise similar concerns in central and south Florida. But I'd argue that state is already heavily scouted by everyone. Being able to have recruits parents drive to a game could be an awesome selling point
If the B12 isn’t considered a P5 and at the table with the big boys… Do you see CMC staying around?
No sure what you mean by chase wins?
If ISU would end up in a G5 conference- a higher SOS will put the conference champion in a better place for a Playoff Bid or NY Day Bowl.
If that means playing 10 conference games plus 1 P5 then that's what it takes. Remember the Playoff's will be a big deal if they expand to 12 teams. The 12 team playoff was expected to earn $2B in media rights. Under the current playoff system 20% goes to G5 conferences.. The playoff alone could award each G5 schools around $7M if playoff $ are distributed evenly. If playoff share isn't evenly split- more $ could go to top level G5 programs.
From everything I've heard.. Jamie will drop non-revenue sports and cut everything to keep football going. Having commercial real estate incoming from the Pollard entertainment district could be a game changer
that will be the week after the Iowa game. Amazon will pay big bucks for those schools
And when those mother ******* travel to Ames for a game the tailgating **** is going to be ******* epic!!!!
I was more hopeful about this pre-Alliance. But it's still true that the Pac-12 GOR is even shorter than ours, only through 2023-24, and the reports last year were that USC and UCLA declined to sign an extension.
Maybe the OU/UT move, followed by the B1G lending the Pac-12 a hand via the Alliance, will head that off for a while. But I doubt very much it would mean long-term stability. At best, the Pac-12 would link arms until around the time the ACC GOR expires (in 2036) to tee up a potentially enormous round of realignment then.
Everything is complicated by OU and UT being here until 2025, but not really expected to be here until then. If they actually were committed, we could wait and see what the Pac-12 does and react to that. If the Pac-12 stuck together, we move ahead with our BYU/Cincinnati/UCF plan - if the Pac-12 got raided, then we could take the original Plan A of merging with whatever's left of the Pac-12. Everyone's favorite Athletic writer Andy Staples proposed the B1G grab six Pac-12 schools - we could easily merge with the leftovers (although West Virginia makes it unwieldy) for a 14-team conference that would be solidly 4th best in the country.
And the stick together and expand plan should be built with an eye toward the mid-2030s - knowing that if the SEC and B1G go on expansion sprees, we could be in a position to either merge with, or get absorbed by, or absorb ourselves, either or both of the ACC or Pac-12 remnants. I think the main goal until then is to keep our conference profile as high as possible by winning, making the CFP, and keeping up on the $$$ side, so that we are perceived as close to (or better than) whoever doesn't get plucked by the B1G and SEC out of those leagues.
They also pack their basketball arena with fans.
Everyone can't complain about the best options then complain about how the tv revenues are even less than they hoped for after the OU & UT exit.
There are a few very stupid people who are insisting on doing this over and over again; it's best to just let them yell at the clouds.
Pollard and Light is essentially a plan to get fans (and outsiders also) who don't support the program with a check to do it with a credit card.
Every single one of the potential expansion teams mentioned would blow the MAC away in every way, shape and form. Any conference with the remaining Big 8 teams (with or without additions) would be the best non-power conference and not anywhere near the MAC (which should be an FCS conference akin to the MVC). Iowa State's floor is the AAC or the MWC (which both blow the doors off of the MAC too).
