Big 12 Statement 9.1.2021
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At this point I think we could do something constructive, maybe come up with all the new names we can think of for the Traitorous Two.
OuT, Goons and Whorns (learned this week), Traitors, Defectors, ou and it (new one right here).
I'll bet there are some other goods ones. Go.
So we’re going to ignore the fact that those “city schools” or “directional schools” are actually large institutions with passionate fanbases, just because we don’t like that they’re named after a city or direction? UCF is the largest school in the country, they’d be a better addition than New Mexico. When has anyone ever cared about New Mexico football?
Edit: UCF is the largest school, not second largest. Almost twice the size of Iowa State.
I don’t think the service academies would be very good additions. As far as sports go, we would be adding three teams that have no realistic shot of making the playoff or winning a national championship. They have to recruit a certain type of player and are never going to be able to get top talent the way a BYU, UCF, Cincy, or Houston potentially could. On the academic side, they’re great schools but they aren’t research institutions.
Relegating to the weakest, imo, is still a stretch. People don't realize the situation the Pac12 is in. They, simply, can't demand the audience. Too much else going on in that late timezone. Unless they change their footprint, I don't see them ever getting out of the cellar.
Just some questions:
Are TX and OU still officially members of the Big 12? If so, aren't the remaining eight now colluding and creating a potential for TX and OU to withhold any payments because they were not in the meetings?
What statement should we expect at this point, having been less than two months into this thing?
There is an incredible demand for information from our respective schools and the Big 12 itself. In an effort to accommodate this, the Big 12 releases a statement that is a word salad and clearly heavily lawyered.
Are TX and OU still officially members of the Big 12? If so, aren't the remaining eight now colluding and creating a potential for TX and OU to withhold any payments because they were not in the meetings?
What statement should we expect at this point, having been less than two months into this thing?
There is an incredible demand for information from our respective schools and the Big 12 itself. In an effort to accommodate this, the Big 12 releases a statement that is a word salad and clearly heavily lawyered.
I have no doubt that the remaining 8 have every right to plan for their futures without any inclusion of the teams that are exiting.
PAC-12 Grant of Rights expires on 2025. Oklahoma and Texas (as of now) are expected to honor the Big-12 GOR until 2025.
Before the OU & Texas to SEC new broke, the PAC-12 was the weakest power 5 conference. What's stopping the Big 12 from pouching PAC-12 schools if the Big-12 can guaranteed more money. Also, why shouldn't the Big-12 explore going beyond 10/12 teams and go to 16?
It appears BYU has been confirmed to "add value", so if you're heading west why stop at BYU. When the PAC-12 GoR expire say go hey (X,Y, & Z PAC-12 schools) come join us. On top of those 4 schools we're adding UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, & Memphis. I'd think this conference would bring more value than anything the PAC-12 can muster.
Before the OU & Texas to SEC new broke, the PAC-12 was the weakest power 5 conference. What's stopping the Big 12 from pouching PAC-12 schools if the Big-12 can guaranteed more money. Also, why shouldn't the Big-12 explore going beyond 10/12 teams and go to 16?
It appears BYU has been confirmed to "add value", so if you're heading west why stop at BYU. When the PAC-12 GoR expire say go hey (X,Y, & Z PAC-12 schools) come join us. On top of those 4 schools we're adding UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, & Memphis. I'd think this conference would bring more value than anything the PAC-12 can muster.
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Pretty sure the bylaws state OU and Texas don't have voting power anymore. The R8 even have the power to distribute revenue anyway they want....
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I really don't understand the Memphis love, they do nothing for me. Low fan base, not good academics, worst football stadium in fbs. Nobody can convince Colorado State couldn't turn into an Iowa State, Kansas State or Oklahoma State
The traitors are now disinterested parties which means they have no vote. The first meeting, they chose not to attend so they laid that groundwork themselves.
What payments would they withhold. The conference gets paid and then the conference hands out the money. The GoRs gives the schools media rights to the big 12 until 2025. The conference can sit on the payments and pay nothing to them now because they broke the rules stipulated in the Bylaws.
Well yeah. I’m sure reading something reasonable, is a weird experience for many here. Anyway, stop deflecting.
Given all the evidence in front of you, if you had to wager your livelihood, what would you wager is the more likely outcome:
G5/6 status.
Or
An invite from P4 conference.
If the big 12 does not stay in the playoff system ...The big 12 WILL GO FROM YOUR TV SET ....TO A STREAMING SERVICE.....
Has someone talked to the PAC about dropping their directional school?
There is no landing spot right now, because right now none of the other Power Five conferences want any of the BIG XII LEFTOVERS.....SAD BUT TRUE.
Ask yourself this question: if you were seeking to add teams, would you rather add teams that recently received a large settlement from teams exiting their conference (who could then afford to take reduced shared for entry), or just try to negotiate with them before they reach that settlement?
