Not sure if anyone has talked about it but who would you guys want to see to expand further?https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...discussed-as-future-conference-additions/amp/
Big 12 Expansion (new thread)
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I posted this the other day and got no love for the idea.
East Division:
UCF
WVU
UCin
ISU
UH
KU
West Division:
BYU
TT
TCU
BU
OSU
KSU
We could play 5 East games 2 West semi-annual games and two West annual games.
Have two annual Challenge games. So in this case ISU could pick KSU & BYU (for example) so we would play:
non-conference
non-conference
non-conference
TT or TCU
BU or OSU
KSU - Challenge game
BYU - Challenge game
UCF
WVU
UCin
UH
KU
If KSU want's to play both ISU and KU they could. (assuming KU picks them as one of their two)
We don't have to pick KSU or BYU. We could pick anyone in the west, as long as they pick us.
We would play at least one game in Texas every year, play KSU every year. BYU & WVU don't have to fly across the country every year. West teams get to play in Florida every 2 or 4 years depending on if they are the Challenge team. East teams get to play at least 1 game in Texas every year, if not more.
It seems like it works, but maybe there is something I'm missing?
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Us in the same conf. as UCF. Did not, 2 months ago, see it coming.
I posted this the other day and got no love for the idea.
East Division:
UCF
WVU
UCin
ISU
UH
KU
West Division:
BYU
TT
TCU
BU
OSU
KSU
We could play 5 East games 2 West semi-annual games and two West annual games.
Have two annual Challenge games. So in this case ISU could pick KSU & BYU (for example) so we would play:
non-conference
non-conference
non-conference
TT or TCU
BU or OSU
KSU - Challenge game
BYU - Challenge game
UCF
WVU
UCin
UH
KU
If KSU want's to play both ISU and KU they could. (assuming KU picks them as one of their two)
We don't have to pick KSU or BYU. We could pick anyone in the west, as long as they pick us.
We would play one game in Texas every year, play KSU every year. BYU & WVU don't have to fly across the country every year. West teams get to play in Florida every 2 or 4 years depending on if they are the Challenge team. East teams get to play at least 1 game in Texas every year, if not more.
It seems like it works, but maybe there is something I'm missing?
Swap Houston for KSU.
ISU MBB seems to play a couple Sunday non-con games each year. Also pretty common for WBB & Wrestling as well.
As another poster mentioned Olympic sports are much more common on Sundays. Baseball & Softball are very common. Also in sports where there are travel partners involved.
But your original point is spot on. Not a big deal to exclude play on Sundays for BYU.
OK, deal.
Who's our new Challenge game? If it's OSU we would play one game in Texas every year and visit every stadium once every 4 years. (I'm fine with that)
Did you read the whole post?
The Challenge game is a team you play every year even though they are in the other division.
Plus historical rivalries and fans in the stands matters. If TV waters down rivalries and reason for visiting fans to attend games, it will eventually lead to a decline in interest.
ISU MUST play KU & KSU as part of the new Big12 alignment. The reality is they are the only regional rivals we have left in the Big12 after losing Mizzou, Nebraska and CU.
With a 12 team conference, it really shouldn't be a big deal with 9 or 10 conference games. If the Alliance is going to eat up non-conference games against ACC, Big10 & Pac12 for the Big12 then I think 10 conference games makes a lot of sense. It would help to build up conference cohesiveness.
I realize it removes some flexibility from scheduling. But in 2021, if ISU were to replace the UNI or UNLV game with a Cincy, UCF, Houston or BYU most fans would think that would be a big step up in non-conference SOS and TV rating potential.
I actually love that. Look at the areas of recruiting opened up. It adds Ohio and Florida. Yes, yes and yes please.This would not make ISU happy, methinks. But it does split Texas schools evenly, keep WU happy, and give an east/west balance.
How about something like, playing some sort of square off of division vs division. The one cool thing the B1G ALMOST did last season. No idea how it'd work, end of season, or in the beginning using previous season's record, but I thought it was a cool idea.
1v1
2v2
3v3...
We haven't even determined the fans' preferred divisional split for the 12-team version, let alone 14 ... give us some time!
OK, deal.
Who's our new Challenge game? If it's OSU we would play one game in Texas every year and visit every stadium once every 4 years. (I'm fine with that)
OSU or TCU
This would be a cool way to play a 9th conference game if the NCAA would allow it - everyone playing 13 games with the regular season plus CCG week. It would free up a non-con spot for us to use how we see fit.
It would be especially cool if the Big 12 got in the Alliance and those four leagues all shifted to 8+1+1+1 scheduling. Maybe we exclude Louisville; Clemson; GT; FSU/Miami from this to allow SEC in state rivalry games still.
A Big XII announcement that new members will begin play in 2023 is all I need to know that there is a framework for getting OuT outta here for the start of the SEC's new tv deal with ESPN that same year. Meaning, ESPN is probably the one paying up to make this happen on that time frame.
If an agreement for when they are leaving is in place, I imagine an agreement on what it costs to go is not far behind.
If an agreement for when they are leaving is in place, I imagine an agreement on what it costs to go is not far behind.
I think it's great as long as we schedule away and away games with them every year in basketball.
