*** Official #14 IOWA STATE vs Baylor Game(Day) THREAD ***

[ISU_Guy]

I skipped 94 pages of the thread but has anyone mentioned that we are swimming straight up the waterfall in punting, punt returning, kickoffs and kickoff returning?

Bottom line is this.
The kick off return baffles me. he kicks the ball out of the endzone everytime, but once. and we paid the price. at some point we have to make a play though.

What has got me angry is the punting.
at the end of the game Baylor punts from their own 29 yard line and pins us at our own 15.
we gain 1 yard and then punt the ball 40 yards on a rope and baylor returns it to the ISU 16.

IF we flip the script and that would have been Baylor or a team like Iowa for example, Their punter Kicking from the same spot as ISU did, would have moon launched the punt over the ISU punt returner and backed us up at our own 20-25 yard line. We are seeing this over and over again and it has to stop.

Punting and field position is what is adding fuel to the fire right now. IMO

 

[Kaner04]

Bottom line is this.
The kick off return baffles me. he kicks the ball out of the endzone everytime, but once. and we paid the price. at some point we have to make a play though.

What has got me angry is the punting.
at the end of the game Baylor punts from their own 29 yard line and pins us at our own 15.
we gain 1 yard and then punt the ball 40 yards on a rope and baylor returns it to the ISU 16.

IF we flip the script and that would have been Baylor or a team like Iowa for example, Their punter Kicking from the same spot as ISU did, would have moon launched the punt over the ISU punt returner and backed us up at our own 20-25 yard line. We are seeing this over and over again and it has to stop.

Punting and field position is what is adding fuel to the fire right now. IMO

Opposing punters are just practicing against us. We put no pressure on them at all and can get 3-4 steps into their punts. Coaches probably think Dunn is good in practice because he has all the time in the world but in games teams put the pressure on

 

[ISU_Guy]

Opposing punters are just practicing against us. We put no pressure on them at all and can get 3-4 steps into their punts. Coaches probably think Dunn is good in practice because he has all the time in the world but in games teams put the pressure on

Interesting point.. I guess I don't understand why we are not putting more pressure on the punter if all we are doing is fair catching anyway.

Every single time we either fair catch or they punt some 60+ yard bomb over our head. If the point is always to fair catch then why not go after the punt or at least rush the guy?

 

[Darius Bieber]

Interesting point.. I guess I don't understand why we are not putting more pressure on the punter if all we are doing is fair catching anyway.

Every single time we either fair catch or they punt some 60+ yard bomb over our head. If the point is always to fair catch then why not go after the punt or at least rush the guy?

I think the one time we (really) pressured a punt, we got a block. Last year against Baylor at home.

 

[HFCS]

OK everybody who knows better than Manning.

What should the play call have been on 2 point conversion? Obviously not what we actually did.

Looks to my untrained eye like Breece to either edge is an easy 2pts.

 

[Darius Bieber]

OK everybody who knows better than Manning.

What should the play call have been on 2 point conversion? Obviously not what we actually did.

Looks to my untrained eye like Breece to either edge is an easy 2pts.

Yeah. I was hoping a quick pass to Breece on the outside would have worked. Similar to the 4th down conversion on that drive.

 

[HFCS]

Opposing punters are just practicing against us. We put no pressure on them at all and can get 3-4 steps into their punts. Coaches probably think Dunn is good in practice because he has all the time in the world but in games teams put the pressure on

I wonder if they just want to avoid penalties? In Mac era it seemed we were constantly giving teams life by running into the punter.

 

[Lewey24]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

 

[HFCS]

Yeah. I was hoping a quick pass to Breece on the outside would have worked. Similar to the 4th down conversion on that drive.

passing or running him to the outside, they had the middle stacked, but if there had been a gap in the middle he knows to cut it up as well as any back in ncaa

 

[Darius Bieber]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

The win/loss record will judge us. The CFP committee will. I’m sure your boss will judge you too.

 

[NoCreativity]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

He won't throw his boy Manning under the bus even though he's cost us this and the Oklahoma game last year because he panics under pressure to get a play called.

 

[JM4CY]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

Who expected something different from him? That’s what he was going to say, something along those lines.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

I've spent a lot of time thinking about it, and I don't think we can blame the tents for this one.

I only saw one tent, so I am not ready to give that one up just yet.

 

[awd4cy]

Well it’s official, we have seen peak ISU and it was last season. We’ll never see another season like that again.

And unfortunately wasn’t a normal year. Hate to think and wonder if we get as far last year with a normal year. I’m more skeptical now.

 

[nickoff]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

ouch, that is disappointing. Man the @#$% up and defend your decision, answer the question.
Do not like seeing MC blow off losing and mistakes. Just reeks of ego and blind stubbornness.

 

[Trice]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

I've seen two or three of these postgame quotes and all I can think is, pride goeth before the fall, Coach.

 

[Darius Bieber]

ouch, that is disappointing. Man the @#$% up and defend your decision, answer the question.
Do not like seeing MC blow off losing and mistakes. Just reeks of ego and blind stubbornness.

Bingo. I’d rather him acknowledge the Special Teams issue and say it’ll be highlighted during practice this week and take a look at our options at punting going forward.

 

[Trice]

I only saw one tent, so I am not ready to give that one up just yet.

Weird how much that mattered to people two years ago and not now. Two years to prep and we bring one single tent, and nobody cares. And both games played out almost the same way.

 

[Die4Cy]

This is such a disappointing answer from Campbell…

The cynic in me says he wants his reaction to the question to be the story, not the failures in critical moments of the game, just to provide a little cover for players and coaches after a bad loss. But I didn't hear it live for full context.

 

[SpringCreekCY]

Campbell = Tin Cup