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Brock is so unclutch it hurts.

Honestly ask yourself: has he ever made a clutch game winning drive once in his career? He always fumbles the bag. Everytime. I’m so sick of watching it.

Texas last year

Farmageddon 2018

Texas 2019

He got us the TD late yesterday and against OU in ‘19 in losses.
 

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We had a back go for 190 yrds and a defense give up only 24 pts (and only 3 in the second half). What more do people expect? ST and Purdy were the problem yesterday and have been for most of our losses the last 3 yrs.

No. ST and Punting cost ISU this game not Purdy dude. I still want Purdy every day of the week and so does this team. Purdy can't help some Piss poor play calls or an OL that doesn't give him enough time or a bad snap....or Kolar being literally dragged down as the ball is in air to him on that 2pt conversion....Keep in mind the back judge was literally staring at Kolar as he was being dragged down.

Purdy can't tackle Ebner on the 98 yd TD.
 

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what did Purdy do that was so bad that it caused us not to win the game?

I get he missed a couple of throws. That happens. The interception.. was it his fault? Probably not.

I’m not saying he’s been playing fantastic but I can’t put the blame for the loss on him.
Start with what he’s not doing. That is Manning as much as Purdy though.

We need to be saying “without Purdy that play doesn’t work” instead we’re more often saying “not his fault”

We have some talent, but not the kind in which you can have a game manager qb that is limited, and rather mistake prone for a game manager. His mistakes and misses are magnified because we’re not getting much above replacement play on the other plays. Very few plays does Purdy beat a good defense anymore, he’s somehow less of a positive factor than as a freshman. He’s Richardson with more talent around him and being manipulated into rope a dope (high completion percentage).
 
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Well it can be pretty tough to get open when your QB does not have a strong enough arm to throw accurately beyond 20 or so yards. The short routes are usually the area for TEs and RBs. Hutchinson is a quality receiver but is a deep threat and Brock simply does not have the arm to hit him with regularity. You can't expect to get people open (especially WR) when they are all bunched up in the 5-20 yard area because the QB is not accurate beyond.

You mean like throwing it 50 yards and hitting the 4-star WR in the hand, but the 4-star WR has no clue where the ball is? Purdy missed a couple throws, but he's pretty accurate and has proved in the past he can get the ball downfield. It's a scheme and talent issue at WR.
 

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After re-watching the game this is what I saw:

He made lots of mistakes today.

He missed a short pass to Breece that would have went for a TD. It was amazing that this even got past the D-Line, he threw it right between the D-Lineman's arms. Breece couldn't see it coming. Would have been an amazing catch if he caught it.

Threw behind Hutch. This was hard to see, but it was actually tipped at the line of scrimmage and made it behind X. I think it would have been behind him anyway, but catchable.

Thew one ball right between Kolar and Hutch.
Overthrew an open receiver by several yards that would have been a TD.

Yep, I've counted 3x where Purdy just missed long. I don't know if it was because it was a hot day, but the ball was floating on him all day. Even a couple completions looked higher than he intended.

And then fumbled a 2 point conversion.

I can't tell, but this is probably a communication issue. Could be on Newell? If people want to complain about this, I'm on board with that, but I'm not 100% sure this was on Purdy.
 

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I'd like to see Dekkers play the first half against KU.

No. I hope he plays and I think the kid is incredibly talented but no.

I don't think Brock is quite as good as some think he is - but this is his team and he played reasonably well on Saturday. Not great, not elite, but well enough. Sure, the snap between him and Newell is an ugly memory but overall, he played well enough.

My issue with him is the idea that he's untouchable. No one on this team should be that untouchable.

In games vs. Power 5 conference teams - non conference and bowls and teams not named Texas tech and Kansas - so other bowl quality programs basically.

I think he has 40 touchdown passes and 24 interceptions. Or something like that. I did not include Louisiana, UNI, UNLV.

Now, obviously, there are factors such as weather, getting hit as he released the ball, tipped passes, etc...granted and fair points all. But its still concerning that over that much time, the number of interceptions.

He's a good college quarterback. He's by everything I've seen from afar, a good teammate, person, leader... but that doesn't make him elite. It should not make him untouchable. No one on this team should be.


Does he deserve to get pulled?

I don't think so. But I also don't like the idea that somehow he means so much he can't be pulled. The New England Patriots decided to go on from Tom Brady. The Colts cut Payton Manning. the 49ers moved on from Montana. I don't like when MC implied there was no scenario where Brock's position would be threatened. I don't think that's a good luck to the rest of the team but that's just me.....


as for the records... its partly the number of games. He's started a long time and been a good collegiate quarterback for a while. At a school that doesn't have a bunch of NFL star quarterbacks as alums - you're going to set records when essentially you're a 4 year starter.
 

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Start with what he’s not doing. That is Manning as much as Purdy though.

We need to be saying “without Purdy that play doesn’t work” instead we’re more often saying “not his fault”

We have some talent, but not the kind in which you can have a game manager qb that is limited, and rather mistake prone for a game manager. His mistakes and misses are magnified because we’re not getting much above replacement play on the other plays. Very few plays does Purdy beat a good defense anymore, he’s somehow less of a positive factor than as a freshman. He’s Richardson with more talent around him and being manipulated into rope a dope (high completion percentage).

Brock was being Brock his freshman and some of his sophomore years because he was allowed to roll out of the pocket and get a better view of the field. He's not real tall which makes it more difficult to see when planted in the pocket. His scrambles were much better when he was outside. He also doesn't have the arm strength to be a pocket passer.
 

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Brock was being Brock his freshman and some of his sophomore years because he was allowed to roll out of the pocket and get a better view of the field. He's not real tall which makes it more difficult to see when planted in the pocket. His scrambles were much better when he was outside. He also doesn't have the arm strength to be a pocket passer.
His throw to Scates was pretty impressive IMO. He's also made some strong throws in the pocket this year to the sidelines. I think his arm strength has improved from last year
 
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Covid dumb luck must’ve been it last year. Basically a slightly better Indiana.

Not to pile on but we're really a slightly better Nebraska. They have the same problems we do. They play great defense but their special teams suck and they always seem to manage to have a backbreaking turnover at exactly the wrong time.

That said, I really think he's our best option right now and that's not his fault. People only seem to remember Dekkers against a super soft prevent defense throwing underneath the coverage against Iowa and not Dekkers going 2 for 6 against UNLV and looking generally not good. And I really, really like Dekkers. He can zip the ball maybe unlike anybody in my memory in an ISU uniform.
 
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I’ve been kinda thinking lately that Brock Purdy reminds me of Tony Romo. Likeable guy that is a good leader for the team. Athletic enough to make people miss when pressured, and makes some impressive plays when things dont go as planned. Capable of throwing well, but not particularly accurate and not a huge arm. Good enough to make the playoffs but not necessarily win with consistency. And then most of all just straight up has brain farts in pressure situations that make you say WTF. And I used to love Romo just like i do Purdy.
 

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After re-watching the game this is what I saw:



He missed a short pass to Breece that would have went for a TD. It was amazing that this even got past the D-Line, he threw it right between the D-Lineman's arms. Breece couldn't see it coming. Would have been an amazing catch if he caught it.

Threw behind Hutch. This was hard to see, but it was actually tipped at the line of scrimmage and made it behind X. I think it would have been behind him anyway, but catchable.

Thew one ball right between Kolar and Hutch.
Overthrew an open receiver by several yards that would have been a TD.

Yep, I've counted 3x where Purdy just missed long. I don't know if it was because it was a hot day, but the ball was floating on him all day. Even a couple completions looked higher than he intended.

And then fumbled a 2 point conversion.

I can't tell, but this is probably a communication issue. Could be on Newell? If people want to complain about this, I'm on board with that, but I'm not 100% sure this was on Purdy.

I AGREE its not ALL Brock Purdy's fault...The Offensive Line has UNDER PERFORMED this Whole Season so far...."The QB and RB positions need the guys in front of them to help them be successful"....Paraphrasing Coach Matt Campbell
 

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After re-watching the game this is what I saw:



He missed a short pass to Breece that would have went for a TD. It was amazing that this even got past the D-Line, he threw it right between the D-Lineman's arms. Breece couldn't see it coming. Would have been an amazing catch if he caught it.

Threw behind Hutch. This was hard to see, but it was actually tipped at the line of scrimmage and made it behind X. I think it would have been behind him anyway, but catchable.

Thew one ball right between Kolar and Hutch.
Overthrew an open receiver by several yards that would have been a TD.

Yep, I've counted 3x where Purdy just missed long. I don't know if it was because it was a hot day, but the ball was floating on him all day. Even a couple completions looked higher than he intended.

And then fumbled a 2 point conversion.

I can't tell, but this is probably a communication issue. Could be on Newell? If people want to complain about this, I'm on board with that, but I'm not 100% sure this was on Purdy.
I've come to terms that Purdy is great, but doesn't have a great long ball. We were blessed with two very physical/large receivers in Lazard and Butler that won a lot of 50/50 balls (Pettway to a lesser extent), which accounts for (I would imagine) the majority of Brock's 30+ thrown balls (taking out slants that went the distance).
 

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I've come to terms that Purdy is great, but doesn't have a great long ball. We were blessed with two very physical/large receivers in Lazard and Butler that won a lot of 50/50 balls (Pettway to a lesser extent), which accounts for (I would imagine) the majority of Brock's 30+ thrown balls (taking out slants that went the distance).

We all know Purdy's arm isn't up there with with top of the top arm talent. That said, he put it in Scate's hip pocket 55 yds in the air last Saturday. What he can't do is flick it 30 yards like Spencer Rattler, etc. He has to step into those kind of throws.
 

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