Chicago Bears bought Arlington Heights track only to build next to Soldier Field?

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Just for some perspective, many other NFL teams actually play in stadiums located in a suburb of the namesake city. The LA Rams and Chargers stadium is in Inglewood, the Cowboys are in Arlington, the Dolphins are in Miami Gardens, and the Jets and Giants are in New Jersey. There are probably others, those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
 

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Just for some perspective, many other NFL teams actually play in stadiums located in a suburb of the namesake city. The LA Rams and Chargers stadium is in Inglewood, the Cowboys are in Arlington, the Dolphins are in Miami Gardens, and the Jets and Giants are in New Jersey. There are probably others, those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

I believe the 49ers stadium is a solid hour from downtown San Fran, which would appear to be somewhat comparable to Chicago/Arlington Heights.
 

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Correct. It's an absolutely asinine plan.

Kaufman as it sits is unique and they just put a ton of money into it. Great place to watch a game that's incredibly easy to get to and get in and out of.

No its not. Its an absolute dump of a location. Its a 20 minute drive from any population center of KC, there is zero transportation to get their outside of driving, and there is not a bar or restaurant within 5 miles.

There is a massive difference between 82 games of baseball downtown and 8 football games in the suburbs. Its a great place for football, horrible for baseball. I would attend at least 5-10 more games of poor baseball if didn't have to drive 30 minutes to get there and pay 20 to park every time.

How some of these teams (St Louis, San Diego, Colorado) have really built an entertainment area around baseball stadiums is something to look forward to.
 

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I went to Chicago a few years ago and we drove by the stadium, not for a Bears game. I was honestly just thinking, what is it like getting to and from these games? It was a pain in the butt honestly to get to the UC, which is a lot smaller venue, I just couldn't fathom what it'd be like getting on a bus or something to go to a packed game and Soldier.

I live 10 minutes North of O'Hare and it is easier, and faster for me to go to a Milwaukee Brewers game than a Cubs or White Sox game, and while it is an all day affair getting to Green Bay, it is certainly a lot less stressful than attempting to get to Soldier Field. You either drive and it takes over an hour and half and you pay close to $100 to park, or you take public transport and it takes at least the same amount of time and you have to walk a hell of a ways. You would think a City like Chicago would have a ton of transit options on getting there, and their are, it is just none of them are good or make it easy to get there.

If they do end up moving to AH, the Metra station there will be the easiest transport location the Bears have ever had out side their stadium. Which is nuts considering they are located on a museum campus now.
 

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I believe the 49ers stadium is a solid hour from downtown San Fran, which would appear to be somewhat comparable to Chicago/Arlington Heights.

This is 25-30 miles from the heart of the city, and less than 20 minutes drive from the city border. Much more like Arlington is to Dallas than what Santa Clara is to SF.

Obviously traffic will impact that, but it certainly will be better than it is now.
 

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I live 10 minutes North of O'Hare and it is easier, and faster for me to go to a Milwaukee Brewers game than a Cubs or White Sox game, and while it is an all day affair getting to Green Bay, it is certainly a lot less stressful than attempting to get to Soldier Field. You either drive and it takes over an hour and half and you pay close to $100 to park, or you take public transport and it takes at least the same amount of time and you have to walk a hell of a ways. You would think a City like Chicago would have a ton of transit options on getting there, and their are, it is just none of them are good or make it easy to get there.

If they do end up moving to AH, the Metra station there will be the easiest transport location the Bears have ever had out side their stadium. Which is nuts considering they are located on a museum campus now.
I've seen some concerts at Northerly Island. Pain in the ass.
 
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I live 10 minutes North of O'Hare and it is easier, and faster for me to go to a Milwaukee Brewers game than a Cubs or White Sox game, and while it is an all day affair getting to Green Bay, it is certainly a lot less stressful than attempting to get to Soldier Field. You either drive and it takes over an hour and half and you pay close to $100 to park, or you take public transport and it takes at least the same amount of time and you have to walk a hell of a ways. You would think a City like Chicago would have a ton of transit options on getting there, and their are, it is just none of them are good or make it easy to get there.

If they do end up moving to AH, the Metra station there will be the easiest transport location the Bears have ever had out side their stadium. Which is nuts considering they are located on a museum campus now.
Cant you park and ride a blue line transfer to red or green and be about 2 blocks from Wrigley in about an hour? Time on the train to me is a mystery because I sleep or read.
 

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But Soldier field is so unique. I hate all these indoor stadiums way out in the suburbs.
Tbh I have never attended a game at soldier field so maybe it sucks but it's a freaking spaceship on a Roman coliseum, that's sick.
 

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No its not. Its an absolute dump of a location. Its a 20 minute drive from any population center of KC, there is zero transportation to get their outside of driving, and there is not a bar or restaurant within 5 miles.

There is a massive difference between 82 games of baseball downtown and 8 football games in the suburbs. Its a great place for football, horrible for baseball. I would attend at least 5-10 more games of poor baseball if didn't have to drive 30 minutes to get there and pay 20 to park every time.

How some of these teams (St Louis, San Diego, Colorado) have really built an entertainment area around baseball stadiums is something to look forward to.
I love the town of KC and attending the Big 12 tournament in March every year, but the thought of the Royals moving near the P & L sounds like a traffic nightmare. You have a point regarding the current location and the lack of bars and restaurants nearby. I guess that is why everyone tailgates there.
 

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But Soldier field is so unique. I hate all these indoor stadiums way out in the suburbs.
Tbh I have never attended a game at soldier field so maybe it sucks but it's a freaking spaceship on a Roman coliseum, that's sick.
I attended a game there under the "old Soldier field." It truly was a dump. To be fair, I have not seen the new version inside yet.
 

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But Soldier field is so unique. I hate all these indoor stadiums way out in the suburbs.
Tbh I have never attended a game at soldier field so maybe it sucks but it's a freaking spaceship on a Roman coliseum, that's sick.
Soldier field kind of sucks, but I suspect it's mostly that 25/30 years I've been alive the product is horrendous.
 

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I remember when the Twins and Vikings played in Bloomington with huge parking lots surrounding the stadium. The Mall of America now stands in its place.

There are still a LOT of people that would rather have that same set up back in Bloomington. Moving it to downtown killed the vibe those teams had.
 

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But Soldier field is so unique. I hate all these indoor stadiums way out in the suburbs.
Tbh I have never attended a game at soldier field so maybe it sucks but it's a freaking spaceship on a Roman coliseum, that's sick.
I've always described the appearance of Soldier Field in this exact way, but with an opposite opinion: it's a hideous atrocity.
 

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I remember when the Twins and Vikings played in Bloomington with huge parking lots surrounding the stadium. The Mall of America now stands in its place.

There are still a LOT of people that would rather have that same set up back in Bloomington. Moving it to downtown killed the vibe those teams had.
Probably nice back in the day to be next to the airport.
TBH I think the new Twins park was done really well. TWolves arena is a dump. They should just fold the franchise or play in StP.
 

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Okay living about 10-15 minutes from this property let me see if I can get my pluses and minuses out.

Minus - Leaving the city of Chicago, I believe Chicago is the only city with all four major sports within the city limits.
You lose history, although one can argue the mistake by the lake took care of that.
I am sure they will lose some city fans that come to games/events, but the Bears really don't care about Soldier Field.

Positives - You go from a 7 acre site to one with over 300 acres
The stadium will be easier to get to, the Metra already has a stop at the location and I am sure an expansion of transit will happen.
Stadium will be 5 minutes from a major highway, and have plenty of parking.
The ability to approach the stadium from 360 degrees will be helpful. Getting in an out of Soldier Field is a nightmare it literally takes longer than the game, and with the limited parking, impacts the ability to tailgate.

There has been some rumbling that this is a step to making the team attractive to a buyer. Virginia is old, and if rumors are true the family won't be able to pay the estate tax when she passes, so they will be forced to sell at that point, no clue if that is just rumor or if there is truth in it. This just gives them a really attractive option to build a state of the art stadium and entertainment complex. This is the way forward for NFL franchises, hell Balmer is doing it with the Clippers.

I think it makes a ton of sense, and frankly look forward to going to a game there if this ultimately happens. I haven't been to Soldier field since 2013 and I don't have any plans to ever go back. Just way to difficult to get to. Honestly the only reason I would go to Soldier Field now is if ISU played there, which is very unlikely.

So my in-laws are about 20 minutes away from the new site. My question: do you think it will have any impact on property values in the area? I’m sure not going to want to visit in game weekends.
 

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Miami Gardens Dolphins
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Orchard Park Bills
Paradise Raiders
Inglewood Rams
Inglewood Chargers
Santa Clara 49ers

Get over yourselves, Decatur Staleys fans.
Glendale Cardinals is another one.
 
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But…… why?
I think it's as simple as... the city owns Soldier Field, the Bears do not.

Building their own stadium, and accessory buildings around it (hotels, bars, etc) like ISU plans to do or the Packers already have, makes them more money.
 
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