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FriendlySpartan

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#1 doesn't align with #2. You can't do pods with 14 schools.

With 16 schools and four 4-team pods, scheduling headaches are resolved for the most part where you play the other 3 teams in your pod every year and everyone else in the conference twice every 4 years. SEC will be going to this once OU and UT are added.

And while the Alliance has the 3 conferences, those 3 conferences are discussing scenarios where each of the 3 will expand to 16 with existing B12 schools. Whether they actually go through with that is open to debate but it is certainly on the table. The P12 simply cannot go on as-is with using the PACN for their Tier 3 FB inventory and without a CT zone presence. The ACC is desperately attempting to re-do their TV deal with ESPN and the only way they get that done is with expansion. And as noted, the B10 resolves a lot of their scheduling headaches with expansion to 16 while opening up markets for BTN streaming subs.
What i said was that i have heard the division changes being talked about for awhile. I agree that pods don't work with 14 but again I haven't heard anything solid on pods just that the current divisions would be going away fairly soon.
 

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Pods are much worse than X protected opponents that vary by school. Say the B1G goes to 3 protected rivalries and rotate through the 10 remaining schools. Iowa can have Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin. Meanwhile Minnesota can have Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan. And you just repeat this process for all 14 schools. No pods needed.
 

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Great point. With the footprint, all of that is available to the sec.
If be interested in how to B1G would counter. For weather reasons, they’d probably need a domed stadium in December. Indianapolis, Detroit, & Minneapolis have domes. Without a dome, there’s plenty of NFL stadium options in Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, KC.
 

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If be interested in how to B1G would counter. For weather reasons, they’d probably need a domed stadium in December. Indianapolis, Detroit, & Minneapolis have domes. Without a dome, there’s plenty of NFL stadium options in Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, KC.
New bears stadium might be a dome. Plus its right next to O'Hare
 

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Seems to me a lot of options are being discussed by Presidents & AD's, but each is contingent on certain things happening. So I don't believe what BTM posted is THE WAY forward for the Big10 but one of many possible eventualities.

Also I don't feel that creating a pod structure automatically means conferences will implement their own 4 team CCG playoff.
  • If the National Championship Playoff stays at 4 teams, then I definitely see conferences implementing a semi-final/final CCG structure. After all, how else does a conference establish their best team when schools only play 8(or 9) of 15 other conference teams in a season? Plus if a buck can be made, AD's will go that route.
  • If the National Championship Playoff expands to 8 or 12 teams, then it seems to me that CCG's don't make sense. Playing 1 or 3 games as part of a CCG series means season ending losses for teams with Playoff aspirations.
  • If a 12 team playoff is worth $2B, then getting 3-5 teams into the Playoff means more money for conferences and schools than TV money from a CCG series.
I don't see BTM's post being definitively good news for ISU. There is too much in play over the next couple years, with the Pac12 media rights deal being the first domino.
  1. If the Pac12 gets a big bump ($15M+) from its current $32Mish per school annually, then the Pac12 sticks together. Geographically, it just makes too much sense. If the Pac12 doesn't get paid, then the top 4-6 Pac12 schools will look to the Big10 and/or SEC for a pay day.
  2. If the Pac12 schools get their big bump, then the ACC schools are going to come into play. THEY AIN'T GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND the Big10, SEC and PAC12 until 2036!! Either ESPN will need to step up and increase their ACC Network deal to be inline with the Pac12 OR ACC schools could decide to dissolve their GOR. That allows for wholesale movement of ACC teams to the Big10 and SEC.
Maybe that opens the window for Big12 teams like ISU, Kansas, etc. to join the Big10, SEC and/or PAC12 as part of 2 or 3 major conference structure. Or depending on how Big12 TV media rights negotiations progress in 2023/2024.
 
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We have to be careful with internet rumors. Internet rumors were the cause of World War I.

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SEIOWA CLONE

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Here is how the pods could work.

1) Play every other team in your pod (3 games)

2) Play another pod on rotating basis (4 games)

3) On semifinal weekend you play the equivalent placed team in another pod you haven't played that year on a rotating basis. So #1 team vs #1 team from another pod you haven't played and #2 vs #2 and so on and so forth. (1 game)

That is an eight game conference schedule that is fair and balanced.

4) Winners of the semifinal games between the #1 teams plays each other in the CCP.
The SEC currently only has an 8 conference game schedule, so they could easily go to a 9 game conference schedule, if they go to pods, 4 pods of 4 teams each. You play your 3 other teams in your pod, and then you play 2 of the 4 teams from each of the other 3 pods. Do a home and home then switch to other two teams. 4 year cycle, everyone plays everyone else in the conference twice every 4 years.
You then play your semi final round the last week of the regular season, and the finals during the weekend every other conference does. Which means that you are playing semi final games the week of the Army/Navy game when everyone else takes the week off.
 

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The SEC currently only has an 8 conference game schedule, so they could easily go to a 9 game conference schedule, if they go to pods, 4 pods of 4 teams each. You play your 3 other teams in your pod, and then you play 2 of the 4 teams from each of the other 3 pods. Do a home and home then switch to other two teams. 4 year cycle, everyone plays everyone else in the conference twice every 4 years.
You then play your semi final round the last week of the regular season, and the finals during the weekend every other conference does. Which means that you are playing semi final games the week of the Army/Navy game when everyone else takes the week off.
Sorry, pods really aren't a thing.
 
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SEIOWA CLONE

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Sorry, pods really aren't a thing.
Sorry but with a 16 team league its the only way to insure that each side plays one another. Go to 2 8 teams divisions, and you are only playing a team in the other division once every 4 to 5 years.
 

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Sorry but with a 16 team league its the only way to insure that each side plays one another. Go to 2 8 teams divisions, and you are only playing a team in the other division once every 4 to 5 years.
7 division and 2 different cross over every year. It's not rocket science.